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Have you tried NixOS?(lemmy.ml)

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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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I’d been hearing a lot about NixOS so I did a VM install. It wanted me to setup my own partitions manually without even giving preset sane defaults like I was back in 1994 installing Slackware.

Nope. My OS is a tool, not a lifestyle.

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Laser@feddit.org
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Encryption? Also you’re assuming there’s only one block device…

assuming the person before did not just mean partitioning, but also all other storage-related tasks

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lemmyvore@feddit.nl
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I mean, if we’re talking sane you shouldn’t need more than one partition.

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turnipjs@lemmy.mlOP
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How long ago did you try? You should try again, I did not have this experience setting up with the graphical installer a few weeks ago.

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qqq@programming.dev
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Sounds like you haven’t done it in a while. It has calamares installer now.

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Laser@feddit.org
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This is the opposite of me. I always get nervous when I don’t have precise control over how the disk layout looks. I explicitly decided for the non-graphical installer when I first downloaded NixOS

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Chef6652@lemmy.world
46 points

There is a Gnome/KDE installer too now ;)

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superkret@feddit.org
7 points

Slackware still does that in 2024.

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Jazzy Vidalia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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You can even still launch Slackware from DOS!

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noobface@lemmy.world
8 points

I need to compile my kernel… by hand with tools from beige-age computing.

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suction@lemmy.world
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So? If that’s too much for you, use Chrome OS

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Wooki@lemmy.world
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it wanted me to setup my own partitions manually

You’ve obviously never used nix, it’s GUI installer can auto configure just fine.

When your OS AND apps are declared and stateful a lot of risk and complexity is removed. Configuring is just a bad experience with poor usability and worse documentation.

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suction@lemmy.world
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Where do you draw the line though between tool and lifestyle? At setting up partitions (which is a trivial thing I would not mind at all)?

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MTK@lemmy.world
11 points

My OS is also a tool!

Those jerk OSs and their bullying!

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Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
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Too gimmicky

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aidan@lemmy.world
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Guix doesn’t use systemd(it uses Shepherd)

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Vilian@lemmy.ca
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One thing that no-one tested is the overhead of all the sandbox, like, each module, lybrary of program run in a sandbox(some times they tweak the source code not need the sandbox) so I wanted to see the overhead of all of that

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ivn@jlai.lu
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It build in a sandbox, but it’s not run in a sandbox.

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Vilian@lemmy.ca
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I don’t understand, if you run a program inside the sandbox and the program ask for a library, the kernel need to map the library from inside the sandbox to the program, that overhead that I’m talking about

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Laser@feddit.org
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This is not how NixOS works. Programs directly link against libraries in the store. There is no sandbox by default when running the binaries.

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ivn@jlai.lu
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But it’s not run in a sandbox. I’m not sure where you get this from.

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Mio@feddit.nu
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No, because it miss an ui for the config changes.

I think NixOS is also doing some layering that could cost performance. I am unsure about the storage size, if it is much more like flatpak and snaps that I also dislike.

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mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org
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Guix is amazing.

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a Kendrick fan@lemmy.ml
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i nuked my nixos install twice to install guix and twice I went back to my nix setup. GuixSD is missing a certain polish to it. It feels like it’s on the way there but probably not yet…

the second time was just last week, after setup on sway, I installed flatpak apps and tried setting up nix-env for packages, some XDG_DATA_DIR fucked up and I couldn’t even see the installed packages or start them from a terminal

servers are also slow and rebuilding is a fucking pain

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