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Then we should be able to charge AI (the developers moreso) for the same disgusting crime, and shut AI down.

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Camera-makers, too. And people who make pencils. Lock the whole lot up, the sickos.

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…no

That’d be like outlawing hammers because someone figured out they make a great murder weapon.

Just because you can use a tool for crime, doesn’t mean that tool was designed/intended for crime.

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It would be more like outlawing ivory grand pianos because they require dead elephants to make - the AI models under question here were trained on abuse.

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Sounds to me it would be more like outlawing grand pianos because of all of the dead elephants - while some people are claiming that it is possible to make a grand piano without killing elephants.

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Can’t generate Abuse Material without Abuse. Generative AI does not need any indecent training to be able to produce indecent merial.

But it is a nice story to shock and scare many people so i guess the goal is reached.

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This is tough. If it was just a sicko who generated the images for himself locally… that is the definition of a victimless crime, no? And it might actually dissuade him from seeking out real CSAM…

BUT, iirc he was actually distributing the material, and even contacted minors, so… yeah he definitely needed to be arrested.

But, I’m still torn on the first scenario…

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What is the AI trained on?

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Image-generating AI is capable of generating images that are not like anything that was in its training set.

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AI can compose novel looking things from components it has been trained on - it can’t imagine new concepts. If CSAM is being generated it’s because it was included in it’s training set which is highly suspected as we know the common corpus had CSAM in it: https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/news/investigation-finds-ai-image-generation-models-trained-child-abuse

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It is amazing how Lemmy can usually be such a well informed audience but for some reason when it comes to AI people simply refuse to acknowledge that it was trained on CSAM https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/news/investigation-finds-ai-image-generation-models-trained-child-abuse

And don’t understand how generative AI combines existing concepts to synthesize images - it doesn’t have the ability to create novel concepts.

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it was trained on CSAM

In that case, why haven’t the people who made the AI models been arrested?

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