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Just the fact that Trump said he was hit by a bullet leads me to believe it’s not true.

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Bake 'em away toys! Case closed!

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12 points

What’d you say, chief?

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14 points

Do what the kid says

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I had people shit all over me for saying that his injuries were more consistent with the glass shards, saying I am a nutty as the conspiracy theorist people.

I was deployed, my buddies got shot and hit, that’s not what a bullet grazing wound looks like. Fracture mechanics is also a very messy simulation, and when you introduce that much kinetic energy into a rupture situation like glass the stuff flies everywhere.

And here we are.

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FBI Director Christopher Wray revealed during a marathon testimony on Wednesday that investigators still do not know if former President Donald Trump was grazed by a bullet or a piece of shrapnel during his attempted assassination.

But making this distinction doesn’t guarantee clicks, so let’s keep the headline from being too clear about it.

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I think the FBI is saying they know where each round ends up and it’s not in a trajectory that could have injured Trump. But they can’t just say that to the Republican Congressman asking the question.

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It’s a distinction without a difference. “Trump wasn’t injured by a bullet, he was injured by shrapnel from the bullet” doesn’t let the FBI or the SS off the hook for missing this kid before he started shooting.

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Nah, implying the US is a nazi regime is good.

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Yeah it’s a stupidly thin hair to split, to the point where it’s irrelevant. It doesn’t matter if the bullet hit him or the shrapnel caused by the bullet hit him. The fact is there was a guy with a rifle within pissing distance. The government really fucked up.

Not that I’m either surprised nor disappointed by that fact. I personally suspect that the secret service treats the Trump detail as the dump assignment for all of the shittiest, bottom 1% of their security personnel.

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Idk a lot of law enforcement is pro trump, they might have wanted the detail.

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Trump responded with a post on Truth Social while the hearing was still taking place, calling for Wray to resign—but not for anything he said about the assassination attempt. Instead, Trump lambasted the FBI director for claiming that he found his interactions with President Biden “uneventful and unremarkable.”

He’s such a batshit narcissist. And rapist. And a fraud. And a crook, a pathological liar, vain to the point of gruesome, and many other qualities that explain how he’s running the entire republiQan party.

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He wants to be treated like royalty. Like a Tsar. Like Putin.

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Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can’t complete a coherent sentence. He’s too old to lead our great country, he needs to drop out. He can’t even remember his own lies anymore, he’s out of it. It’s sad and embarrassing.

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Yeah. It was in 2016 too!

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79 points

The distinction here is hardly relevant.

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It is relevant to history. You can either tell the Trump story that a bullet hit his ear, or you can say that he caught shrapnel.

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The only way that would be relevant would be if there was a determination that the shooter was trying to do some kind of ad hoc false flag thing, as opposed to writing his own name into history. Everything we know at this point indicates that the latter is true, and the former is not.

Whether Trump’s injury was the result of a fired projectile or a piece of shrapnel, the injury was caused by an assassination attempt.

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Whether Trump’s injury was the result of a fired projectile or a piece of shrapnel, the injury was caused by an assassination attempt.

We all know what really happened.

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The truth is still the truth, even if there is no material difference in the implications.

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It’s also relevant because one of Trump’s current campaign statements is that he “took a bullet for America” which may be another lie.

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except if the shooter was just shooting into the crowd and hit like a railing or something then it wasn’t an “assassination attempt” it was a mass shooting.

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ad hoc false flag

Dont be in such a rush to rule this out lol. Ad hoc false flag should be Trump’s middle names

He’s always been a real ad war hoc

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Not really. I’ll give you a “for instance”. Few people know this story.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Arutyunian.

In this case, although in danger, Trump was being shot at by someone who couldn’t shoot.

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I think there’s essentially no limit to what the shooter’s motives could be. What was the Las Vegas shooter’s motive? What was the motive at Columbine? There’s a million possibilities. Narcissism, delusions, non-specific rage.

Sure, there’s one conclusion that seems simplest, which is that he shot at Trump but missed. And if he grazed Trump’s ear, that’s almost certainly true. But what if it comes out that the FBI finds that the closest shot was over 10 feet away from Trump? If that happens, I think we’d be fools to continue to assume it was an assassination attempt.

The smartest thing anyone could say at this point is “I don’t know”.

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That’s still not very relevant. Either way he was shot at and his ear was hit. Whether or not it was a whole bullet, part of a bullet after the bullet hit something, or something that the bullet busted off that hit his ear is of minimal importance.

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If it was shrapnel then it dispels the idea that if he’d turned his head just a few inches it would’ve been death.

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And it makes the whole divine intervention thing seem less likely, but they are already reaching so hard anyways I’m sure they will just reach a bit further… it’s a cult after all.

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Lol yeah THAT’S what makes ‘divine intervention less likely’

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If my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a bicycle, too.

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I am confused. Are you trying to say that your grandma gets ridden a lot?

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If my grandma had wheels she’d be a skank with wheels.

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That fuckin chef on that good morning TV show. That clip is so funny

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Or a car-hop at Sonic.

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I mean, sure? But we are getting pretty far into “what if” territory that can never be known and doesn’t really matter. If he was hit by a bullet, or shrapnel from a bullet doesn’t change the fact he was injured by a shooter.

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The only interesting thing about it might be that it once again points out the hypocrisy of the right.

They mocked John Kerry as undeserving of his purple hearts, and wore fake bandaids because he was hit with shrapnel.

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… it once again points out the hypocrisy of the right.

We could climb that pile into orbit.

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Space elevator might be out of reach but the space mountain is real.

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It’s an integral part of NASA’s plan to return to the moon.

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Yeah, this feels like a good headline more than useful information.

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Clickbait?!? From The Daily Beast?!? Impossible!!!

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I think what you’re trying to say is that “either way he still survived an assassination attempt”, which I agree with, but the details still matter.

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It’s relevant to the folks who believe in divine intervention, isn’t it?

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The folks who believe in divine intervention don’t care about what actually happens in reality in any case, so no, it’s not relevant to them, either.

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I would think that the difference between it being a bullet vs a piece of glass would be the difference between divine intervention or not to many of them.

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People who believe in fantasy and fairytales aren’t going to be swayed by the nuance of fact.

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Do you have evidence for that?

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It’s relevant in that Trump is probably dishonest again.

The situation is shocking enough if he was hit by glass in an assassination attempt, but they couldn’t resist lying and saying the bullet hit his ear.

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He was struck by…a smooth criminal.

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Donny are you OK?

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Are you OK Donnie?

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Wanna be a baller, shot caller Twenty-inch blades on the Impala

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