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When will the liberal party pass the electoral reform they were elected to pass?

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They won’t

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They will with enough pressure. This negative attitude is useless.

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And that pressure comes from the citizens who never put pressure on. I live in a fascist government situation in Canada simply because I am disabled. But people like you would tell me to stop complaining that at least I have some support. I have chased my MP to no effect or response at all. I have done the same with my MLA. I have educated my fellow Canadians. I have ranted and raved for decades and protested about how we are treated as second class citizens and you all are not standing up for us. None of you. I’m purple in the face from screaming into the void.

You expect people to stand up for you? You’re delusional. My experiences at the bottom of Canadian society tell me otherwise.

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Pressure as it “voting for other people” and “nationwide general strike” or pressure as in “Thoughts and prayers” online?

Because the first isn’t going to happen, as evident by this election, and the second hasn’t achieved anything so far, and will continue to achive nothing because it isn’t actually pressure.

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precisely why voting is pointless

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Ahh, here’s the tankie…

You’re responsible for Donald Trump getting elected because you just focused on attacking democrats relentlessly then foolishly claimed that voting is “pointless”

Get out of here with your authoritarian tendencies.

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Thats the fun part, they never do. Then we Anarchists get blamed for not voting hard enough

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Its a stretch but I’m hoping with a liberal minority there is chance the NDP could advocate for electoral reform as negotiation point. Its a stretch but I feel like its the only way it could happen.

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how come no one remembers that WE had a referendum for voting reform and WE voted it down? everyone keeps blaming the liberals when it was the dumb ass population who fucked that up.

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49 points

“One vote never changed anything,” said ten million people.

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“me reducing my carbon emissions won’t change anything” said ten million people.

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But who else is to blame? Seriously…

Where do you think these 57 companies get their money from to continue doing their shit? By individuals buying their shit.

What do you think these 57 companies consist of? They employ hundreds of thousands of individuals. Each of which could theoretically decide not to continue with that.

Of course I realize it’s not that easy, individual situations may be complex, and that there’s different amounts of blame to go around. You’re correct, these companies have concentrated blame to them and it’d be more impactful to regulate them specifically.

But my statement is simply also true. Multiple things can be true at the same time. Multiple courses of action can be reasonable.

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I’m Indigenous and I have family and friends who live throughout the north.

I couldn’t believe the recent Ontario election for the representative for Mushkegowuk-James Bay … the NDP candidate won it by 9 votes

And I have a ton of people in all those northern communities who all don’t vote because none of them believe that it is worth it because they are Native.

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Please show them these margins. it’s crazy to me how small the number of votes are per riding and really puts everything into perspective

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I’m in a riding that is consistently held by the conservatives, and not by a small amount. There are something like 40-50k votes cast in my riding and the reference between lib and conservative was about 6k.

I still go out and vote, because some day the 6k difference might be 12 individual votes…

If the conservatives win by a handful of votes, and I didn’t vote, I don’t think I could forgive myself.

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I heard that there were some communities where voting closed super early. Under circumstances like that, I can sympathise with people who feel that there’s no point in voting; there were people who went out to vote but weren’t able to, and that must be so demoralising

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38 points

If somebody tells you voting is pointless, they are voting for somebody you wouldn’t vote for.

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I don’t really think that’s the case. If you live in an exceptionally partisan area then there’s little impact to voting.

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5 points

That depends on your voting system.

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Right, but this is a Canadian community about the recent Canadian election. The voting system is assumed.

In my riding, if you only had the option of liberal or conservative and a 100% turnout we would still have elected the same blue brick for the 4th time.

Usually this just means I get to vote for whatever party I like the platform enough of/like the leader.

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Casting a vote is as effective at achieving political objectives as using Purell a couple times a week is at eradicating COVID.

Voting isnt pointless, it’s just not nearly enough.

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Yeah, so the Conservatives won with like 80% in my riding. I voted, but I also wondered why while doing it. Man, I wish we had proportional rep.

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In your riding? Is canada just larping yorkshire?

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I mean, at least York is.

We also call the Conservatives Tories, and if you do crimes you get charged by the Crown.

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TIL. Glad to see at least one canadian has some sense of humor.

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