142 points

So Google is telling us, they cant make a product if there are standards or requirements for what they are doing?

That means whatever US customers are buying, theres something in it, that does something illegal in EU.

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This is why companies want US citizens to believe that EU is a bureaucratic hellscape (I mean there’s also the forces that want to tell them it’s communist for the same reason I guess)

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Aah, the US.

The only place in the world where everyone knows the word ‘communism’ and nobody knows what it is.

Russia and China are not communism btw. :shocked Pikachu:

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42 points

“Sorry, we can’t adjust the thermostat until we have audio evidence of whether the family is going through a divorce”

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7 points

I would have been surprised if this weren’t the case

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4 points

They call the product line ‘Nest’, because it’s where their data servers is getting nutrition from.

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Heating systems in Europe are unique and have a variety of hardware and software requirements that make it challenging to build for the diverse set of homes

AKA. Europe probably has hardware and software requirements that make it so Google can’t

A) Harvest your data; and/or B) Must be able to function without an internet connection (aka. they can’t kill it)

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20 points

European heating system:

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10 points

TBF, I have those AND a programmable thermostat.

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3 points

This is a thermostat (although an analog one). You set a temperature with it. “3” corresponds with about 20°C.

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Of course. You’d just never see this and go “oh, that’s so unique and has a variety of hardware and software requirements”. That’s what I was getting at.

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54 points

I can’t think of many companies I would be less willing to buy home automation tech from than Google.

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4 points

i am surprised that they haven’t canceled the program already

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1 point

There is more home shot for them to create new teams. Once they get through everything is when you have to worry about your Google water heater program being cancelled.

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1 point

Oh noo. Anyway…

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46 points

Imagine a thermostat needing an internet connection.

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It’s not a hard requirement, but it’s sure nice to leave the house at a low but non-freezing temp in winter while you’re away for a few days, then use a web app to bring the temperature back up right before you come back in.

Being on the home LAN, though, is a requirement for me. That is extremely convenient.

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I do NOT want my thermostats to phone home. I don’t see any value of that.

But they are connected to MY smart home system (Hone Assistant), and THAT is accessible from the internet.

I get the remote monitoring and control that I want, and they don’t get any of my data. Perfect!

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This is the way.

I for sure also want to access it on my Home Assistant, and it really can save alot of power to automate it. Even going down to 20C in the night, and make it going to 22C before anyone wakes up saves alot in a year.

But stay the fuck out of my data.

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Yeah, I got some z wave thermostats for home.

I got an Emersonl “homekit” thermostat for my in-law and managed to get it on wifi without “cloud”. Unfortunately you have to be careful because the follow on model requires their cloud service for online control.

It’s a real shame that most every house is well equipped to do standalone hosting for remote access, but most of the investment has gone toward cloud connected to force the recurring revenue opportunity.

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Actually…

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There’s a difference between something having an optional internet connection, and something requiring one. I can control my smart home through the internet, but when the internet connection breaks and I’m at home, I can still control it.

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