Women who transitioned decades ago feel their safety and security has suddenly been removed

Last week’s supreme court ruling sent shock waves through the UK’s trans community.

The unanimous judgment said the legal definition of a woman in the Equality Act 2010 did not include transgender women who hold gender recognition certificates (GRCs).

That feeling was compounded when Kishwer Falkner, the chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, which is preparing new statutory guidance, said the judgment meant only biological women could use single-sex changing rooms and toilets.

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I hate it when European countries play “who can emulate the US the fastest”

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Nah, that doesn’t apply in this case. The UK is a world leader in transphobia, acting not because the US does things, but because they’re entirely transphobic on their own.

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I bet Rowling is ecstatic.

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She donated £70,000 to the people that pushed to pass this bill.

In the words of Pedro Pascal, she is indeed a “heinous loser”

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They suck, but world leader? Some countries still stone you to death for such things.

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Uh, that varies wildly state to state and person to person here in the US. California even has division among acceptance, there are significant portions of people on LA and SF who’d love to see all these things repealed. Social media is a helluva drug.

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One day old account with nothing but bad takes. Go back to Reddit, troll

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Well, UK birthed the US after all. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

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From having lived in several countries in Europe, including the UK, I would say that Britain is the closest we have here to the US when it comes to being a deeply flawed Democracy, possibly worse than the US since unlike it, Britain doesn’t even have a written constitution, so just about everything can be changed with a law passed by a simple parliamentary majority (of 50% + 1) and as the UK has a First Past The Post electoral system said majority can be had with a mere 34% of votes cast (the current government has such a parliamentary majority with only 33.7% of votes), which given the typical level of Parliamentary Elections abstention over there is less than the votes of 1/4 of voters.

Britain has wonderful propaganda helped by some really weird elements like the local elites sending their children to schools were they learn the fine arts of “managing apperances” (learned behaviours which in many other countries would be considered dishonest and deceitful) plus a media industry which is World class (probably the best Theatre industry in the World, IMHO) often used to project a very good image of the country (its almost a joke how every couple of years, almost like clockwork, out comes a new film about WWII portraying Britain as a great country), so from the outside most people have a good impression of of that country, but if you’re living there and get involved in Politics and really learn about their system, the more you learn the less Democratic it seems.

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Surprise, it’s religious history.

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Good on you for leaving the EU with at that fuss about “human rights” and “rule of law”.

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You might be thinking of the Council of Europe, of which the UK is still a member (for now).

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Yeah, I got the ECHR and ECJ mixed up.

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For anyone else who didn’t recognize those initialisms:

The European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and its European Court of Human Rights are part of a completely different legal system to the EU. The ECHR and its court are part of the Council of Europe, which has 47 member states, including Russia and the UK. The EU, on the other hand, consists of 27 Member States.
The European Court of Justice (ECJ) is the body responsible for overseeing compliance with EU law within the EU. That said, the EU and Council of Europe systems are intertwined because the ECHR lies behind many of the general principles of EU law and its provisions have been used as a basis for the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights. All 27 EU member states are also members of the Council of Europe.

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Well, that’s not so bad then as this case can still be appealed to the European Court of Human Rights then.

I distinctly remember how one of the “benefits” Brexiters claimed for leaving the EU was not having to be a member of the Euopean Convention of Human Rights anymore (which is mandatory for all EU members), so I’m pleasantly surprised the UK hasn’t left it yet (I was an EU immigrant in Britain and left the country just before Brexit and didn’t really keep up with British politics since).

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This case specifically can’t be appealed to the ECHR since the scotland act doesn’t allow the devolved government to do so (IIRC), so we’ll probably have a few years of this until another case works its way up the ladder.

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The Guardian shedding crocodile’s tears? Boohoo, we spend years vilifying trans people and now look what happened…

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Would you prefer a more celebratory article? What’s your arguement?

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The argument is that the guardian is a fucking piece of shit terf rag that platforms the worst of the worst while pretending to be left of center.

And any occasion is a good occasion to remind them to do better.

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I had to avoid looking at this topic elsewhere because it made me so fucking angry. My best friend in the entire world is trans, and she’s coming for Christmas this year. I’m not sure what I’d do if someone harassed her for using the toilet, but I get the feeling my mugshot would be in the paper afterwards.

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The UK doesn’t even have a written constitution, so everything, including “Rights” is really just one parliamentary majority (which with the country’s First Past The Post system can be had for as little as 34% of votes cast, which taking in account the typical levels of abstention means the approval of less than 1/4 of the population) or one Supreme Court decision away from being nullified.

Back when the UK was still a member of the EU (to be an EU member one MUST be a member of the European Convention Of Human Rights), this kinda stuff ended up in the European Court Of Human Rights (which is not an EU court, but instead is the court of last resort for members of the European Convention Of Human Rights), but nowadays maybe that’s not so (I’m not sure if the meanwhile after Brexit the UK has already left the European Convention Of Human Rights, but being able to leave it was one of the things the Brexiters claimed was a “benefit” of leaving the EU).

(Edit: it turns out the UK is still a member of the Council of Europe and hence the European Convention Of Human Rights, so maybe this can still be appealed to the European Court Of Human Rights)

I’ve lived in a couple of countries in Europe, including the UK, and found the UK the be the least Democratic of all (frankly I’m not even sure what they have is a real Democracy rather than a “managed” Theatre Of Democracy to keep the riff-raff thinking they have real power).

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