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Attack the idea, not the source. Are there errors in the article?

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Relevance to this story? What’s the grand conspiracy in this case?

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That’s the challenge. You know the motivation and the goals, just not how they’re doing it today.

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Unless the story is completely fabricated, I don’t see an angle here. If anything, the slant of the article is pro-DEI, which is…not what I would expect from American propaganda in 2025.

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Oh come on, you’re an asshole AND a troll? Really?

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@dwazou@lemm.ee this article, and McGill’s medical program apparently, are very racist by Canadian standards. I don’t think I’ve ever read something that icky in a racist way in a contemporary Canadian publication

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This is anti Canadian garbage and should be treated as such

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This obsession about race is something I will never understand about anglosphere culture.

Britain, Canada and the United States have really gone off the rail.

In French culture, it is considered completely obscene to ask people about their race. In fact, that’s illegal. Employers and universities can be criminally prosecuted if they start gathering data about skin color. The only question universities ask you is the profession of your parents.

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What the fuck does your parents profession have to with with anything?

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What the fuck does your parents profession have to with with anything?

Everything? This data allows you to see if children of sales assistants, restaurant workers, janitors, are underrepresented. It allows you to measure social mobility and meritocracy.

All French universities gather anonymous data about the professions of your parents. That way, it can be studied by social scientists:

https://www.ipp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/democratisation-grandes-ecoles-depuis-milieu-annees-2000-ipp-janvier-2021.pdf

If kids of low-income people don’t have the same chances to study at leading university, it means the education system needs to improve meritocracy. Otherwise, you end up living in a caste society.

Anglosphere countries seem to care primarly about race.

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This data allows you to see if children of sales assistants, restaurant workers, janitors, are underrepresented. It allows you to measure social mobility and meritocracy.

But can’t the same thing be said about melanin levels? “There is no data suggesting there is a problem” is a door bad actors hide behind all of the time.

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Dude, that’s so fucking weird. Neither of my parents ever went to college and I did, but I don’t obsess over it. “Everything” is a terrible answer.

Outside of university admissions, what’s the purpose of this? “Underrepresented” how? Do you really think society is a meritocracy?

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Anglosphere countries seem to care primarly about race.

No, it’s pretty much in everyone’s mind. Just because it doesn’t present the same way everywhere doesn’t mean it isn’t there.

The arrogance of statements you make…

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No, what my parents do has nothing to do with what I do, or what I am capable of.

Edit: the only thing here that makes sense is the economic help part, but you don’t need their families profession to correct for that.

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This obsession about race is something I will never understand about Canadians and Americans. Never. Never. In France, it is considered obscene to ask people about their race in surveys.

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This obsession? Which obsession?

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It’s really not that complicated. If a typical organization is presented with two equally-qualified candidates, one of whom is a minority (of any kind, not just a racial minority), the organization will hire the non-minority candidate nearly every time. DEI policies exist to combat that sort of institutional bigotry.

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These kind of surveys can sound alarmist.

From the United Kingdom:

Fewer than 2% believe educational institutions take racism seriously.

88% participants reported experiencing racial discrimination in the workplace.

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-09-27/unacceptably-high-levels-of-racism-revealed-in-largest-survey-of-black-britons

Sounds scary right?

I’m not White. I have been to Britain. I can honestly say Britain is probably one of the most open-minded and tolerant countries in the world.

My native country is far FAR more racist than Canada, France or Britain. Actual Racism. Actual hatred. Not “I had a bad day, it’s maybe racism”.

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Racism as a tourist is very different than racism as a citizen. And racism presents very differently depending on your race. You’re not white, but the racists in England and Canada (and probably France, but I don’t have experience with that) will treat East Asians, South Asians, brown people, and black people very differently. They might even like you if you’re a tourist - they just don’t want you to live in their country.

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Britain, Canada and the United States have really gone off the rail.

I have been to Britain. I can honestly say Britain is probably one of the most open-minded and tolerant countries in the world.

You said both these things. They make no sense together and seem to show no awareness of the context of your comments. Are you an AI?

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