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Get strapped, the law isn’t going to protect us and seems to be used to harass us

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“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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Rules for thee, but not for me

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Armed minorities are harder to oppress.

Organized armed minorities make governments afraid.

Make no mistake, this is yet another message, “we do not care about you or your struggles”. Listen when they tell you they won’t protect you.

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28 points

Sounds like we need the Pink Panthers

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5 points

Armed and gritty inspector Clouseau isn’t the worst idea for a reboot. Maybe because there’s been so many terrible reboots of other franchises.

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2 points

Pink pistols?

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thats probably the reason why they were so afraid of the civil rights movement, especially with communism so fresh people might want to illict help from soviets.

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131 points

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait…

The title made me think the attacker couldn’t be charged with a HATE crime… Which is dumb and shitty and makes me want to revolt.

But they aren’t charging him with ANY CRIME.

What in the actual fuck

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Gays don’t have rights per fatheads who think a fairy tale is reality. Remember these people think they are going to heaven.

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A self invented reward that they argue over. I think when you die you’re dead and that’s it, so to me it’s just people making up bizarre ways to congratulate themselves on following their own cancerous code of ethics. Like sure whatever it takes, man. Just… Maybe your ethics are fucked up and wrong and you’re in a cult.

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Lumping everyone who is religious in the one boat with the nut jobs makes no sense and displays your ignorance.

Sincerely, a religious person who likely agrees with you on almost everything moral.

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6 points

We should wall off America, and treat it like some cursed, forbidden land.

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Just the south.

That’s where all this filth sprung from and continues to infest the rest of the country.

They were so evil they didn’t just inspire Hitler and the nazis, he considered them too extreme in their racial views.

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from the wiki article on the murder

Assistant DA Kelly Wolford said, “A hate crime would make this charge about Sam’s gender or about Sam’s race, and it’s so much bigger. To limit us to a hate crime would be an injustice to Sam. Sam was beaten, assaulted, sexually abused, starved, held captive. And we cannot make sense of that. We cannot put that on his gender, and we cannot put that on his race”

like what are you talking about

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Once she got a cop who raped a kid weekend sentences.

Here’s what happened to Sam by the way - I’m sure this was just a regular murder and none of these actions were motivated by transphobic hate.

From about Jan. 1 until his death on Feb. 2, Nordquist was prevented from using a phone, according to Wolford. He was kept in confinement and forced to stand and kneel facing the wall. He was hit, punched, kicked and sexually assaulted, she said.

He was also denied proper nutrition and hydration, forced to eat feces, forced to drink urine and chew spit, Wolford said. He was physically restrained, forced to obey commands like a dog, covered in the face with towels and shirts, duct taped and had bleach poured on him by the defendants, she said.

He was repeatedly struck with numerous objects including sticks, dog toys, rope, bottles, belts, canes and wooden boards, according to court documents.

Edit: anyone remember why Norm McDonald got fired from SNL? Was it OJ or was it what he said about Brandon Teena?

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Pretty sure it was cuz one of the nbc top dogs was close with OJ and Norm wouldn’t stop making jokes about OJ being a murderer. He was warned to stop and instead of giving in, he doubled down. Members of the cast and writers respected him for it and have spoke about it on podcasts and such.

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Shit dude I’m not normally one to go for an eye for an eye thing but part of me does want those bastards to go through what they forced their victim to endure

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Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has been a rolling human rights disaster for years. It needs to be torn the fuck down.

Frankly sheriff’s offices in general need to be abolished. It’s a relic of the frontier colonial era and, surprise, they never gave up their power willingly. They often have the lowest training standards in the profession, and are the face of partisan politics in law enforcement, to the benefit of conservatives 99% of the time. A lot of the time I hear about some flagrant abuse of power from cops it’s from a sheriff’s deputy.

EDIT: doesn’t seem like the sheriffs were involved here, just the county prosecutor and Phoenix police. What you get from scrolling at work and not reading articles.

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Doesn’t mean you’re wrong though. Your comment is still very relevant.

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They often have the lowest training standards in the profession

Law enforcement isn’t a “profession.” Practitioners of real “professions,” such as medicine, law, and engineering, have “professed an oath” (that’s where the word comes from) to act in the public interest (i.e. to protect the public) and abide by a code of ethics. That includes things like acting against their own interests and refusing orders from people with power over them, if necessary. In contrast, the courts have ruled in Warren v. District of Columbia that law enforcement officers explicitly have no such obligation.

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On one hand I like how the sheriff’s office decentralizes police power and gives the community a direct say. In the other hand that’s been a disaster

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1 point

The sheriff’s office has managed to keep itself out of the news since Arpaio was defeated.

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You should probably look up Marx’s idea about workers arming themselves. The left has no issue with rming themselves, you’re thinking of liberals.

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The left has no issue with rming themselves

The last decade of the left withdrawing to their own spheres of niche ideology-sub-spectrums has resulted in nobody, even the left themselves, really knowing what “the left” is for or against anymore on a broad level. This is why there’s so much infighting and disagreement and confusion about who believes in what, and of course all the endless purity testing and tribalism that comes with it. Some of this is because of deliberate social sabotage by paid agents, some of this is because of sociology and the nature of our brains. Either way it needs to be identified and understood as an obstacle to unified action.

I don’t give two shits what specific brand of marxism you believe in, or if you’re just a working liberal who wants things to go back to normal, or if you’re some deeply sheltered and naive pacifist who genuinely thinks we’re going to have some idealistic solarpunk future if we just did X, Y and Z. You all need to get armed and get prepared and probably do a lot of things you’re either emotionally or ideologically uncomfortable with. Such is the nature of conflict.

  • Get armed. If firearms really scare the everloving shit out of you, or if you’ve already painted yourself in a corner by preaching against guns around your peers your whole life, then get a fucking crossbow, I do NOT care, as long as you have means to put holes in someone from a distance. At the very least, you need pepper spray, tasers and other personal defense items and you need to practice how they’re used and be ready to deal with multiple people who want to hurt you. Take self defense classes if you can.

  • Get your shit together. If you’re unhealthy, depressed, or have a list of issues that are preventing you from doing X, Y and Z. Now is the time to get that shit managed. Get to a doctor while you can, if you can’t or they can’t help, then do the very best you can on your own as soon as you can. You’ve been putting off the changes you know you need to make, now is the wake-up alarm, time to do that hard thing you’ve been waiting for “the right time” to start on to get your life managed.

  • Save money. Freeze your credit cards. Stop ordering fast food or doordash. Stop eating out altogether. Rice and beans motherfucker, do you speak it?? If you don’t know how to cook your own simple food at home, the only thing stopping you from learning how is your own motivation to type “How do I cook my own simple food at home?” into google and actually putting effort into it.

  • Kill your vices. Related to above, I don’t care if the substance you do daily is completely harmless to you and something you claim is medicinal and helps you sleep/stay awake, you gotta start stepping it down and putting that cash under your mattress and finding alternatives. This isn’t about ethics or legality, this is about not spending your money on things you can live without even if the adjustment period will be hard. Again, now is the time to make those changes.

  • Fix your attention span. It’s worse than you think and it’s preventing you from doing a lot of things you could be doing to make your life better and get healthier. If things get really, really bad, we need as many people as possible who can think clearly and analyze situations from many perspectives. We need people who have read books and can be patient and calm in the face of stress. If nothing else, you will have a better normal life if you don’t need to always have youtube videos of people reacting to tiktok videos playing on headphones before you can even read a work email.

If things somehow get better all around for everyone, then having done all this will only have made you and your life and outcomes better.

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13 points

Gotta get in that divisive jab. Can’t just say a thing.

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9 points

…liberals are on the left. And I believe they’re talking about the ones in the states today, not in 1850, Germany.

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If you think 3% differently than I, you=evil

Signed, -Lemmy

braces for the flood of messages about how evil I am

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thinking of liberals

The ones that enabled us into this mess.

But at least they saved us from universal healthcare and economic equity. Dodged a real bullet there.

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Neoliberalism ruined America. Stole everything we had and gave it all to the rich and corporations. And for what? Line go up? Fucking idiots.

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Are the liberals in the room with you right now?

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Liberals are the left. You’re think of the far left. Essentially they are the left’s equivalent of the far right, just as obnoxious and every bit as easily conned by propaganda.

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That’s liberals that don’t want people armed, mostly because they don’t like not being in control. Leftists are usually already armed.

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2 points

How well did that turn out for the black panthers?

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Well, they did get gun regulations on the books…

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2 points

Your country has 500,000,000 privately owned firearms and your solution is more?

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9 points

Guess which political ideology holds the vast majority of them?

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If we recall 4 years ago, one got shot, and the rest fled. Resolve without critical thinking is a mirage.

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