112 points

AI sure killed the motto KISS. Copilot for notepad is literally using a nuclear reactor to light a single bulb.

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32 points

Figuratively

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16 points

That too.

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12 points
  1. Literally has meant figuratively since it first appeared as a word in the 1700s and this usage is listed in every major dictionary
  2. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/20/energy/three-mile-island-microsoft-ai/index.html
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7 points

The use of “literally” is part of the figure of speech you’re pedantically referring to. Saying “figuratively” would be redundant, as everyone knows Copilot is not a nuclear reactor, and also declaring that you are using a figure of speech “weakens” it (like /s for sarcasm). By saying “literally” they are saying “wow, this fits so well that this isn’t even a metaphor anymore”.
If you want to correct everyone for saying literally instead of figuratively, correct every teenager saying “I’m actually dying rn 😂” with “ackshually you’re not ACTUALLY dying, as I can see you are still alive typing tips fedora

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4 points

Oh. I thought “literally” was just referring to the fact that many of those data centers pull from nuclear grids.

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3 points

I do apologize for using exaggerated words to beautify my sentences, tostiman, sir.

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24 points

Gotta scoop all the data from everywhere on your machine, even the temporary notes you don’t save.

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8 points

They’re not temporary any more, they keep coming back, I keep forgetting and then my PC reboots and I need to make a quick note and have to wait for 50 zombie text files to rise from the dead.

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11 points

The new moto is “keep giving me money stupid”

How wasting billions on AI accomplishes that goal, I don’t know but I’m sticking with FOSS apps and platforms just to be safe

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4 points

The first nuclear reactor was used to light a single bulb. Presumably it was either an incredibly inefficient bulb or an incredibly inefficient reactor.

Anyway this is all just an extension of everything having an app.

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3 points

Using an actual nuclear reactor to light a single bulb is literally using a- I’m kidding. I leave lemmy for a couple hours, come back and see a total armageddon, all because there are picky people about the use of words.

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4 points

And WIRED writes that bsky can’t take a joke. Geez loueez.

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77 points

i installed arch on my laptop almost 10 years ago

I have to fix something maybe once a year and I only update once a week, if i remember

reboot maybe one time in a month

the myth that you need to fix Linux constantly needs to die

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53 points

My fiance is constantly fighting with windows 10 and 11 because shit breaks on there all the time. The challenge isn’t that Linux breaks more often, or that troubleshooting it is harder, it’s that if you have experience with how Windows breaks, and how to troubleshoot windows breaking, Linux breakages and troubleshooting feels entirely alien.

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33 points

I feel that, but in the opposite direction. I’m used to Linux, so the weirdness of Windows is alien to me, and every time I have to try to fix a family member’s computer (“hey you’re good with computers, aren’t you? Could you take a look at a problem I’m having?” I’m a sap like that) I feel absolutely baffled as to what’s broken and how it’s even possible for that to break in the furst place.

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20 points

“the fuck do you mean the windows can’t detect the laptop’s builtin keyboard?”

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7 points

Went out for supper the other night with a buddy of mine who came to visit from out of town. He’s a systems technology trainer coordinator at a community college. (Basically, he teaches the teachers about new technologies before they have to teach it to their students the next term.)

We were talking about tech at supper, specifically windows, and I realized that I have been on Linux for so long that I completely lost any knowledge of how to do any of those things in Windows. And I’m honestly okay with that.

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20 points

I am a system admin and have to run a ton of Windows servers, I feel it. If you don’t keep up on the patch notes shit can get bad without even realizing it. I hate Windows for all the crap that is layered on it but it wouldn’t be so bad if Microsoft didn’t change shit just to change it and move stuff around without a good reason. The forcing of things is what really makes me upset. IDK about your AI shit Microsoft! ITS NOT HELPING

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21 points

None of their docs for 10 or 11 are gaurunteed to be accurate either because they keep changing where things are in what menus to “be more intuitive” only it wasn’t intuitive before, and it’s not intuitive now, and when you do a web search for a problem you get instructions from 2 months ago that reference settings and options that don’t exist anymore. (this is me agreeing with you by the way, I’m piling on, not refuting)

I genuinely think at this point if you, dear reader, have a computer, and you want to use your computer, you should be strongly considering installing Linux Mint, MX Linux, or AntiX depending on your hardware not because it will be easier to use than windows, but because it won’t be any harder to use than windows, and you can start building up the knowledge and skills for how to use and troubleshoot linux just like you did when you first started using windows, and it will be easier long term because Windows is just going to keep getting worse and worse and more unusable and less documented and harder to troubleshoot and use.

I accept that I am biased by that I have years of Linux experience, but I switched my 68 year old mother to Linux because she couldn’t update her laptop anymore because of Microsoft shenanigans and she finds MX Linux to be neither harder nor easier to use. It simply is, to her. There are things she doesn’t know how to do on it, but those are things she already didn’t know how to do on windows.

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7 points

I am a system admin and have to run a ton of Windows servers

I feel your pain, I am a “Linux System Administrator” and the amount of Windows server crap I have to deal with on a daily basis…

  1. Why is XBOX Live services running by default on Windows Server???
  2. Why is co-pilot running by default on Windows Server??!?!?
  3. And what M$ engineer thought, aah yes the best possible place for a recovery partition is at the end of the main OS partition???!?!?!?!?!
  4. And lastly, what the actual fuck were they thinking when they put Windows 11s shit UI on Windows Server.

On the less ranty/negative side:

  • AD isn’t horrible, while I prefer freeIPA, I can’t complain too much.
  • powershell other than being wordy commands, is kinda nice.
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12 points

Sadly I have to disagree. If I have an issue on Windows, I just can never find an answer because every result on my search is the microsoft forums, which of course never has any solutions that work.

On the other hand, specifically for arch, the arch forums always have the answer for me because there are actual smart people on there.

A side note, windows and their products always have terrible documentation, which can add to the frustration at times.

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5 points

I think you’re both right.

If you’ve always grown up Windows, then you generally know the steps to go through to try and fix it, which are oftentimes laborious and sifting through useless answers like sfc /scannow until you finally find some command you need to run like onedrive.exe /reset and about 12 other steps to get your OneDrive syncing (example problem).

Now you switch over to Linux as a fairly new user, oh my audio isn’t coming from my speakers but is from the jack. Uhhhh, the Settings show it all there and working? Oh, here’s a forum answer but it tells me to edit my pulseaudio.conf file? Where the hell is that? Oh, I found it but it’s read only? Oh, I have to type sudo nano /etc/pulseaudio.conf into a terminal? Woah, what the fuck is this text editor?? I guess I use the arrow keys to move, but no mouse support? Alright I’ve edited it but what the heck Ctrl S isn’t saving? Oh, the legend at the bottom says Ctrl O, and uhhhh, yeah overwrite? Now Ctrl X to exit, and uhhh, okay it’s still not fixed but maybe a reboot fixes it. And if we fast forward 4 hours it turned out to be an audio driver.

You get my point. Linux is just different enough where if something breaks, and its something weirdly specific, its a lot of unknowns the user has to rapidly learn where they know these annoying troubleshooting things in Windows already. Linux does have really good forums and answers and documentation but its a learning curve regardless and that can be too much for a really casual user who doesn’t have the time or will to follow through.

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6 points

Tbh, I disagree. Troubleshooting on windows for me became “reboot or reinstall it.” Back in the days before 10 sure, but after it just got to the point where even microsoft support doesn’t know how to do anything either.

In contrast, I have a problem on linux, I google, I find a stackoverflow page with the answer in a few terminal commands which are usually explained, sometimes I go check that program’s manual or help page before I use it, but the command usually does fix the issue.

And it’s not like you never have to use the terminal on windows, flash drive corrupted by windows and needs to be restored? Diskpart is here and it sucks but it works, CLI though. Editing conf files too, had to find (that was the hard part) and edit a conf.json file last week for a friend of mine who was installing a windows service.

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3 points

(i agree entirely but if you say that to people who think linux is scary, they think you’re being a dismissive jerk)

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2 points

Even when I had only used windows, windows issues are so opaque, and the microsoft forums sucks. sometimes, the only advice anywhere is a “microsoft representative” saying to run sfc scannow and when that doesn’t work, you’re on your own.

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2 points

frequently been told to just reinstall when two pieces of OEM software didn’t get along

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16 points

I switched from W10 to Fedora KDE a little over a month ago, and the amount of troubleshooting I had to go through during this time is unlike anything I’ve ever faced with Windows. I think I have a handle on things now, but the switch to Linux as a casual user was not as seamless as I’d been told over and over.

Others experience may be different of course, but in my experience Linux is not as easy to use as Windows.

Still happy with my choice to not swap back to Windows though.

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3 points

I have the exact opposite experience: I recently installed Fedora (stock, so Gnome) and had 0 issues. It was easier to install that Windows. The sidenote is that I have a Framework laptop, so my hardware is fully supported. And I was a Linux user before, so nothing looks alien to me. I didn’t need the terminal to get everything working, including wireless printing.

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10 points

I don’t know what you’re talking about because when I tried Linux it was a nightmare. The only thing that worked properly ironically was the printer. It’s straight up would not play sound, if I plugged in headphones it would play sound but it would not play sound through the speakers. There were lots of people telling me I needed to install new sound drivers, or run arbitrary commands. None of them fixed it.

It ended up being a problem with the USB driver. That’s ridiculous, I shouldn’t have to mess around with a driver for an internal component.

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3 points

Sounds like my experience from a while ago.

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2 points

Yeah, wondering myself if this guys experience was also from a long time ago or maybe just an obscure device or something.

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2 points

What distro?

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4 points

With the apparent rise of immutable spins, it might get to be even less since user space is separate the OS space. I’m trying Aurora on my laptop to see if there is any advantage to running an immutable spin over the standard distros. I’m kind of torn about it right now, there are some advantages to both and some downsides to both.

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3 points

Same experience here. Despite rolling release and everything.

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1 point

What I will offer from my limited experience is that the Mint install I have will begin to topple over after a few weeks if I don’t run updates, whereas my Mac will soldier on without missing a beat if I miss several months of updates.

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73 points

But why vivaldi of all things?

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56 points

People are too wussy to use waterfox or at least firefox. Just gotta have a chrome variant I guess

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43 points

Everything now, except for FireFox, is a WebKit/Chrome variant.

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35 points

That is mostly but not entirely true, Firefox has a few variants of its own, alternatives do exist.

I did some research into the topic not long ago, you basically want to choose an engine and from that a browser

Gecko basd (Firefox)

  • librewolf
  • gnu icecat
  • tor browser
  • mullvad
  • zen browser

Goanna based (Fork of Gecko)

  • Pale moon
  • Basilisk

Servo based (very early in development/not for daily use)

  • servo browser
  • verso browser
  • flow browser

Ladybird: fully independent engine and browser

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-58 points

Should’ve picked Brave instead it at least gives you a better user experience.

If you’re wondering bout the crypto stuff, all that can be turned off in under 1 minute in the settings. Turned it off years ago and forgot about it until someone once brought that up in a conversation.

I also use other Browsers like Floorp, Waterfox, Chrome, Librewolf etc.

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64 points

What you cannot turn off are the homophobic views of Brendan Eich, Braves CEO and co-founder.

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-10 points

Sorry you got downvoted. Once again people are downvoting positive posts about Brave blindly.

It’s no coincidence that the only open source browser that actually blocks ads is the one that gets downvoted all the time. Meanwhile people are dead silent when someone recommends a fully closed source chrome alternative that makes money from search tracking. 🤔

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10 points

What’s wrong with Vivaldi?

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41 points

further contribution to the google chrome hegemony

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3 points

My job basically requires that I use Chrome (I work for a SaaS company whose product’s advance features only work on Chromium). Vivaldi has, at least so far, performed the best, offered the most customization that suited my needs, and isn’t Chrome/Edge. I liked Arc as well, but it has the same issues that Vivaldi has.

I don’t like Brave due to its push of AI/crypto, and Opera doesn’t really work with some of our internal apps.

As a decades long Firefox user it sucks, but I don’t have much of a choice when it comes to work. It’s tough finding alternatives built on Chromium that accomplish everything I need without there being some major caveat.

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-3 points

Ok. Anything else?

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1 point

Its UI and UX are very nice, I loved it while I used it, however, Im now using waterfox for privact reasons.

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This is a pretty random Notepad story, but: in 1999 I was doing web development for Internet Explorer 6 (yes, I know) using Classic ASP and Visual Basic (5 or 6? I can’t be bothered to look shit like that up). Probably my most important debugging tool was the “View Source” menu option in IE6, which would bring up the raw HTML of whatever page I was working on in Notepad. One day the “View Source” option just stopped working, completely. Clicking that menu wouldn’t do anything at all; I tried everything I could think of but just couldn’t fix the problem. For six months I was basically coding blind - I had no way of directly seeing the HTML my code was producing.

Somehow I managed to still get my work done. Then one day I stumbled across an obscure forum post that said “View Source” in IE6 would not work if you had a shortcut to Notepad on your Desktop. I of course had a shortcut to Notepad on my Desktop since I kept everything on my desktop (yes, I know). I renamed my shortcut to “NotepadX” and suddenly “View Source” in IE6 started working again. Possibly the happiest day of my programming life. I played around with it and found that it didn’t have to actually be a shortcut to Notepad - it could be a shortcut to any program or file, but if it happened to be named “Notepad” it would block View Source from working.

I would give anything to find out where this particular bug came from. It’s really bothered the shit out of me for the past 26 years. I don’t see how it could ever happen accidentally, so I have to assume that some MS programmer somewhere really hated people with shortcuts to commonly-used programs on their Desktop and decided to punish them.

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I love that story. Thanks for sharing. What a crazy bug. Maybe IE6 was integrating with windows in some weird way? I almost want to fire up a VM and see if I can replicate it. Think you can remember which version of windows it was?

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4 points

IE was literally embedded into the OS. There’s no surprise there were bugs like that.

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2 points

Wow! Thank you for sharing; what an weird bug! Perhaps some ancient code to make use of notepad for view source if available, then the available function got changed, for other reasons, to if on desktop, then a different version of notepad broke the chain of borked code?

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5 points

Well, IE6 did open Notepad to show source by default, but it makes no sense why a shortcut to Notepad just existing on the Desktop would prevent that. Especially when it didn’t even have to be a real shortcut to Notepad.

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16 points

Probably tried to execute Notepad.lnk, because Desktop came before /system in the path, and however they were calling it did not resolve the link before executing - and that meant a hang, silent error, or no op

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52 points

Notepad had one job. Operate on a damn text file. Operate on the damn text files I choose.

I knew it was going down the drain when I reopened Notepad and it opened the files that were previously open. No. Don’t do that. That’s overly helpful. You were only supposed to operate on the damn files I chose. These files I’m about to work with aren’t necessarily the files I previously worked on. If I want this functionality I might as well open it in vscode.

I’m, like, screw it, might as well keep Emacs running if I need random temporary text editing.

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13 points

Personally I find that feature (including tabs in general) very helpful and is something i’d expect from a text editor in the 20th century.

Just my opinion. To each their own, but just wanted to share that it might also be many others’ opinion too.

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10 points

Meh, sounds like a worse version of notepad++, which has been very popular and reliable since the early 21st century.

If they make notepad more bloated than notepad++ then I’d use it even less.

But each to their own.

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7 points

See I’d use Notepad++ if I was coding or doing any kind of actual file editing.

However, when I’m at work and need to take a phone call, the tabs in Notepad and the auto saving are literally game changing for me.

That being said I haven’t bothered with the AI stuff in it at all, and it feels as usual, Microsoft doesn’t stop when they have a Good Thing already, they keep pushing it beyond that point for their interests. And now we’re left with not a basic editor but a personal assistant.

Long live Linux and freedom of choice.

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4 points

I like how the tabs save when I close notepad. Its super helpful when I just need to jot down some quick notes or a serial number or something.

And I’m really dumb so I often close my notepad window before I’m done and this feature has saved me numerous times.

I don’t have copilot in my notepad tho. Which is good.

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3 points

The best part is that it even retains unsaved documents (and unsaved changes in existing ones), which makes it very feasible to use Notepad as sort of an extended clipboard. Surprisingly good thinking for Microsoft.

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3 points

Gotta agree here with you. Yeah theoretically maybe someone really just needs a text editor with absolutely no additional convenient features (maybe the older versions of Notepad allowing different fonts and word wrap was too much for someone as well?). But this is such an objective improvement in 95% of usecases it’s kind of ridiculous to complain about it.

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2 points

I think I’d be able to agree with you if new notepad didn’t take a noticeable time to load. It used to be the 2nd fastest thing I could launch, after the Run dialog itself.

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2 points

In the 20th century I’d expect something that can open, edit and save plaintext files. But we’re 1/4th of the way into the 21st century.

I find I have two uses for a plaintext editor: plaintext, and computer script. I don’t like using rich text editors like Word for writing notes and such because the formatting options just get in the way; plaintext lets me “just write.” And for this, there’s very little automation that will be helpful.

In the Linux ecosystem, plaintext editors are all trying so hard to be IDEs. They’ll close parentheses or quotes or whatever for you, and if you’re doing something like 15" to mean fifteen inches you’ll get two, you’ll hit backspace and it’ll take both away…it doesn’t help.

If I’m programming anything of any size I’m going to open an IDE, probably because I’m working within some ecosystem. If I’m writing a couple lines of Bash I’ll probably use Vim. So I’d rather tune my plaintext editor to write actual .txt files, as prose.

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1 point

3rd use perhaps being syntax recognition?

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FYI, you can turn this feature off. Click on the gear icon, scroll all the way down, there’s a new section called “AI features”, which has a toggle switch to disable Copilot. Once you flip it to off, Notepad looks and behaves precisely as it did in the past.

EDIT: also, you need to be logged into a Microsoft account and have an active Copilot Plus subscription for any of the AI features to even work. If you try to use them without a subscription, you just get prompted to sign up for one.

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6 points

I hate it when my technology tries to be smart. Be predictable, you piece of junk. I dont need my laptop to sleep when I shut the lid because all that foes is stop it from shutting down. And opening it doesnt need to turn it on ffs. I blame company policy.

I miss when things were simple, predictable, and you could simply work around them.

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4 points

VSCode: We already have an IDE.

Windows: But what about second IDE?

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