Fuck this noise. The only classes that matter are the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland, and everyone else. Quibbling over whose shit sandwich is bigger is just dividibg ourselves for their benefit.
“Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, but give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.”
― Jim Trotter
This is being attributed to Jim Trotter, but I can’t find a source for this claim. I can’t even find when he is supposed to have said it…
It was definitely said in Mr. Robot (2015), and it was definitely not said in the movie The Skulls (2000), no one in that entire movie ever says “bank”, despite what some people on reddit claim.
According to this blog post, the oldest tweet is from 28 Nov 2011 @Bonoboism.
Maybe someone else can find a better source.
Note: I’m linking only to archives, not to either reddit or xitter.
I consider it more of a spectrum, those who are rich enough to own Disneyland on the one hand and those who are fucked the most by the system that benefits the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland on the other. Not everyone is equally fucked by the system that benefits the people who are rich enough to own Disneyland. But you’re right about the shit sandwich.
Nah there are plenty of edible rich people who aren’t rich enough to own Disney Land
The wealthy people who can’t afford to own Disneyland are closer to you than they are the people who can afford to own Disneyland.
I understand what you’re trying to do with the ‘class is the only thing that matters’, but I don’t think that is going to fly well in the US, specifically and especially when trying to get groups with troubled histories between one another to work together.
Trying to unify people by ignoring or erasing their personal or communal identities and histories is not going to be effective at unification IMO.
You sound like a Russian propagandist. It’s us against billionaires trying to eat our planet. It doesn’t get more complex than that.
1 person does not get to decide how 99% of the resources are spent.
I can assure you i’m not a Russian propagandist. You can look through my post history if you don’t believe me. I’d argue right now it’s pretty clear that the comment I’m replying to is unapologetically the propaganda here. It’s not even that I disagree with the sentiment. It’s just a bad argument for winning over folks in the US, which is full of division, and diversity of culture and opinion.
Just, like, think for even a second about who you are trying to unite against billionaires. It includes black communities, and the police who have often terrorized and weakened those communities. It includes both those who are homeless and NIMBY communities who’ve constantly lobbied to deny those homeless any type of help. It includes immigrants, and blue collar workers who’ve constantly attacked immigrants.
Regardless of whether this violence was motivated by the oppression of the ruling class, these are still actively ongoing acts of violence between working class individuals and groups. That bad blood shouldn’t be ignored. The tagline " the ruling class is our only enemy" rings hollow for those actively being attacked by other groups within the working class. The solution should not be to hand-wavingly say “let’s all just get along and unite forces”. It needs to be actively engaging with these groups, and winning people over by actually stopping the violence they experience locally.
Education levels in the US:
- Calls it Disney
- Calls it by the location of the park
- Calls it by the actual name of the specific park
The first two could be swapped, and isn’t Disney World “better” in many regards? One reason Disney secretly bought all the land in Florida was to better do what he wanted to do in California but couldn’t because of space and regulations.
Speaking as one of the weird adult Disney fans, DisneyWorld is bigger and had a lot more going on. I can spend a week at DisneyWorld and leave wanting more. Aside from all the things I enjoy, I relive memories from when I was young, when my wife and I were young, and when our kids were young.
I’ve been there 11 times (I think)
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When I was in elementary school and my parents took the family on a rare vacation.
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When I was in middle school and my mom was president of the school district’s music association, and she took me with when the band and chorus went to WDW because she didn’t trust my dad to take care of me without her (ha!).
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When I was in high school and went in another music association trip. My future wife was on the trip too. It was before we started dating, and we hung out in the pool.
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After my wife received her doctorate, we went to WDW to celebrate. I convinced her we should get what I think was called the “gold key” plan or something like that. Absolutely everything was included. I knew she would obsess over costs and skip things she wanted to try unless it was all included, so it changed from worrying about costs to trying to get her money’s worth.
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When our oldest kids were 5 & 7, we took them (our youngest was under 3, so she stayed with the grandparents).
6 & 7) My wife got continuing education credits at classes there, so we got discounted trips and took all three kids three more times.
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The oldest kids were too old to take our of school, but our youngest wasn’t, so we did a 4th continuing education trip with her, and the oldest two stayed with the grandparents (keeping everything fair).
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Another continuing education trip, but this time all the kids were too old to take out of school, so the wife and I went by ourselves. I thought it would be weird being alone in WDW when my wife was in class, but turns out it was fine. Odd thing is, we kept talking about wanting to take the kids again. So, when we were there we started planning another trip.
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We saved for more than 5 years. Took the three kids and two girlfriends. It was in 2021, so we were masked everywhere. Also, by this time, my wife was no longer working (disabled, had to give up her practice, no more continuing education). Handicapped hangtag for the car, and a wheelchair so she didn’t have to do much walking. On the last day, I was starting to feel really tired, and I thought it was just because of pushing get around in the chair all day every day. Actually I had picked up COVID. Of course several people at work got it at the same time, so I certainly had a better time catching it than they did.
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My wife and I were in the mood for another trip in 2023. Just us this time.
I have much less experience with Disneyland. I’ve been there once. When my wife was still working, but clearly having medical problems, she heard about a doctor in LA who she thought could help. My mom offered to pay for the airfare. I told my wife I would go even though I didn’t really think he would help. However, my price was a visit to Disneyland while we were there.
Disneyland is more “cozy”. I definitely appreciated the vibe. People talk about it having something special from being the park that Walt actually knew and worked on, and I definitely thought that was the case. I’d definitely like to return to Disneyland some day.
As a British guy who worked in the USA for a while, my colleagues couldn’t fathom that I had no interest in going to Disneyland. It was kinda weird the obsession some of them had with it.
Yeah, it’s weird and cringy how into it some adults are. I think part of it is status, though. Everyone knows Disney is expensive, so taking your family is a way to show off your status to everyone with the pics you take for social media.
Once dated a girl who’s family who had season passes to Disney.
Neither I nor they even live in the USA.
I don’t think this works. I know DINKs and single people who work normal jobs (and a shitload of overtime) and go to Disney like six times a year because they’re total Disney freaks. Like, adult Disney people who get Disney tattoos and shit. It’s a whole vibe.
No kids and they choose to go to Disney? You could go to any number of foreign cities or beautiful beaches and they choose Disney? Wtf?
Why go to any number of foreign cities when you can visit everything in Epcot?
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Literally what someone I knew said one time when I criticized them for going to Disney a bajillionth time instead of literally anywhere else in the world.
