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One of the recipients of Zakat funds are islamic terrorists. Not a horrible idea in principle though, but I think it’s much more interesting that Swiss cantons have wealth taxes, because, you know, because Switzerland is a pretty decently working economy. In stark contrast to almost every muslim nation out there.

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European don’t be racist challenge, literally impossible

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Please inform me which part of my comment you imagined to be racist.

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Mostly the beginning. But also the end

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“It’s not racist if it’s true!!!”-ass comment.

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One of the recipients of Zakat funds are islamic terrorists

??? Source?

In stark contrast to almost every muslim nation out there.

Maybe if your countries stopped bombing, invading us and murdering our children, we’ll be able to develop.

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??? Source?

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/46209/categories-of-zakah-recipients – #7

Maybe if your countries stopped bombing, invading us and murdering our children, we’ll be able to develop.

What country do you think I’m from? That may explain it for some countries like Palestine area, but it definitely does not explain why many muslim countries (where “muslim country” = >50% of inhabitants are muslim) have the weakest economies and the highest income inequalities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

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https://islamqa.info/en/answers/46209/categories-of-zakah-recipients – #7

IslamQA is not a good source. Even muslims debate on it.

What country do you think I’m from?

I was talking about europe/america in general. But you may not be from there.

Anyways i apologize for being combative.

but it definitely does not explain why many muslim countries (where “muslim country” = >50% of inhabitants are muslim) have the weakest economies and the highest income inequalities

You’re going to specify what you mean by muslim country. Do you specifically mean the arab world? If so, most if not all countries there have problems beyond just religion. Usually history of colonialism, [civil-]war or dictatorship, which unfortunately in my above point, most were caused or elevated more by those countries.

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Is terrorist what you call all brown people?

Sapa - Who is Eligible for Zakat [8 Recipients]

  1. The Poor (Al-Fuqara):

Those who do not possess enough wealth to meet their basic needs.

  1. The Needy (Al-Masakin):

Individuals face financial hardship but have some resources that are insufficient to cover their necessities.

  1. Those Employed to Administer Zakat (Al-Aamileen):

Individuals employed to collect, manage, and distribute Zakat.

  1. Those Whose Hearts are to be Reconciled (Al-Mu’allafat al-Quloob):

Individuals who are inclined towards Islam or those whose hearts need to be softened towards the Muslim community.

  1. Those in Bondage (slaves and captives) (Fir-Riqab):

To help free individuals from slavery or captivity.

  1. Debtors (Al-Gharimeen):

Those in debt who cannot settle their debts with their current resources.

  1. In the Cause of Allah (Fi Sabilillah):

Individuals engaged in activities that benefit the broader Muslim community, such as scholars, educators, and those defending the Muslim community.

  1. The Wayfarer (Ibn Sabil):

Travelers or strangers who are in need while away from their homes.

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Seems bribery.

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Bribery for what

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i’m between downvoting because it mentions “terrorists” (which are often just people trying to do right) and upvoting because it’s interesting information that switzerland has a wealth tax. i didn’t know that.

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What’s wrong with the word “terrorist” in this context?

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That’s a tax.

But are you sure really rich people should have to pay it? /s

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Did you read the title?

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In 2023, Elon Musk paid $11 billion in income taxes, which was one of the largest individual tax bills in history.

Which is more than 2,5% of his total wealth.

In 2021, Elon Musk paid a significant amount in taxes, with estimates ranging from $8.3 billion to $12 billion, making it one of the largest individual tax payments in U.S. history. This substantial tax bill was primarily due to Musk exercising stock options that were set to expire, which triggered a large taxable income event.

Blablabla. Basically, believe it or not. 2,5% isn’t that big of a deal

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I also read there was a year he paid $0, but even if he payed on average 2.5% yoy, that might relatively be a lot less than what someone working minimum pays on wealth (or in their case just income) tax.

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Am just saying the islamic stuff is peanuts. 2,5% isn’t much. That’s already more than happening.

Elon musk is paying that much on his yearly income. I’m just comparing it to his total wealth.

A lot of his wealth are unrealised capital gains. His total wealth crippled this year with his shenanigans.

If this happened in USA. Then they’d relocate their wealth to other places while only keeping the bare minimum in order to generate an income there.

USA’s average wealth is insanely high because it’s a government that protects their wealth. Once it stops doing that, they will re-locate.

Your 1% holding the most of your country’s wealth isn’t actually holding your country’s wealth. But that of the whole world. Your country is just a safe place to keep it.

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In the US, people making minimum wage pay $0 in income tax in almost all states.

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“Obligatory charity.” Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

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It’s just how Zakat is structured in Islam. “Tax” would also work, but Zakat is specifically earmarked for social welfare (and military uses) so obligatory charity captures the nuance better I think.

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Military uses? How’s that charity?

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So that was an oversimplification; Quran 9:60 specifies the eight recipients of Zakat, and one of them is “for the sake of God”, which has been interpreted by most (but not all) scholars to refer to providing supplies and arms to non-professional (conscripted or volunteer) soldiers during Jihad. Some scholars have been more expansive of their interpretation of this, but that’s the majority opinion. This might seem out of place, which is fair but consider a situation where a Muslim state has to go to war but doesn’t have the funds to raise an army and as a result loses territory. As far as I understand it’s basically a wartime “oh shit” button.

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The fuck does that have to do with anything?

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Yes, i do believe that poor people’s lives become better if you provide them with extra resources.

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If tax payers money go to bombs for Israel it wouldn’t be Zakat

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