So a recent post garnered some comments and reports for being AI art. In light of this we should all have a little conversation about how AI generated images should be handled in the future.
I think we all agree that AI images that are “garbage” or don’t add anything should be removed, but clearly some feel very strongly that all AI art should always be removed.
It should be noted that the rules as written and as agreed on by the community does not blanket ban AI, it merely says AI art should be avoided, while many other rules say no this or that instead.
Things to discuss:
- Does it matter if an image is AI? Does it always matter?
- What about images that are AI generated, but have been modified by a human?
- What about images where it’s hard to say for certain that it is generated? Me and the other mods did not agree on whether the recent image was AI f.ex which makes it hard to make a decision on whether or not to remove it.
- It can be stressful to artists to be accused of having used AI. If we are too militant on weeding out AI art it could be harmful as there will no doubt be some false positives.
- Should AI posts require being tagged in the title? (and of course be required to be of a certain level of quality)
I think a lot of us mods feel that AI should be allowed so long as it is not low quality and serves some purpose (being entertaining f.ex), and that the community should not be flooded with AI. What are your thoughts?
Edit: Thank you all for your input! Most of the others are sleeping right now I think, so nothing is likely gonna happen until later today.
I think the strongest argument against a blanket ban is creators like Obscurest Vinyl who clearly have actual talent and vision that lets them put out 100% ai generated art that is actually art. It seems to me that it’s harder to make AI images that are actual art, and I’m personally okay with a flat-out ban on AI-generated images, but this also cuts out stuff like ai-generated Pixar movie posters or security footage of Yoda robbing a gas station.
As for false bans, thats why ban appeals exist.
Are you telling me a robot made I Glued My Balls to My Butthole Again? It wouldn’t be the first AI song I adored. I’m especially find of this one: https://youtu.be/EWxmm9ibC8U
I also really love that Seinfeld standup bit where the AI accidentally roasted the hell out of transphobic comedians. I think the fact that these things happened as largely random chance rather than by intentional design makes me appreciate them more. It’s like when a cloud looks like something. I think the more advanced AI gets, the less interesting it will be. I’m here for the rabbits with tumor-babies growing out of them.
Totally agree. My favorite is It’s Time to Take a Shit on Company Time. But the reason I pointed out these is that someone did the creative work of writing the words and probably wrote the song as well.
I do miss back when AI was really terrible, and people could do stuff like feeding a bunch of their videos into an AI and acting out what it spits out with unintentionally hilarious results.
I think AI art should be allowed. It doesn’t matter if a shitpost is AI or not, and witch hunting should always be punished. There are too many people out there harassing and hurting people online. Their behavior should be discouraged.
Edit: It should be allowed just for the reason that people don’t need the excuse to act out. I can’t state an opinion without them feeling like they need to downvote to punish me.
Edit: It should be allowed just for the reason that people don’t need the excuse to act out. I can’t state an opinion without them feeling like they need to downvote to punish me.
People should be banned or punished for acting out regardless of if it’s banned or not, them being allowed to just act out makes the space tribalist and hostile. It makes people (especially neurodivergent people) feel unwelcome. Which as an inclusive community which has many vulnerable people is the opposite of what we want. @will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone Please take note of this because I think the safety aspect here is something that is seriously overlooked. No one wants to come into a community and be yelled at because someone thought their art was AI, people who do that should be banned on the spot whether we allow or ban AI itself.
Any and All Abominable Intelligence should be boo’d and shamed >:(
a human manipulating a generated image still doesnt make it art. it can be a nice picture and the tech behind making it can be neat, but it’s not art. that said i just dont engage on posts i know are ai content. presenting a generated image without being clear about it is just being a dick. it dosesnt have to be in the title but it should be aknowledged. i dono if a full ban is needed but if i wanted my feed full of slop i’d be subbed to communites for ai, or .world’s 196. this place seems more about snark and joy, which ai rarely brings out.
I’m on the side of banning AI, but I think that creative uses of it should still be permitted. You should still be able to use an AI generated image if the joke you are trying to make requires that specific image and specifically requires it to be AI generated (maybe pointing out how AI copies some art, idk) or if it is something genuinely novel or cool involving actual technical or artistic effort (something like DoodleChaos’ AI music video maybe).
I think that AI itself is not the problem. The problem is
- Artists are not respected (i.e. big models by big companies that don’t respect artists are the problem)
- AI art is extremely low-effort and the results are boring and unoriginal. Posts that don’t infringe on those things should still be permitted in my opinion.
