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I’m not watching some rando groyper’s clickbait. What is the reason?

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This is why people should stop recommending others which distros to recommend or not.

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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Well I personally think that Fedora is a bad recommendation too. It’s not just about Arch.

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Just switched to fedora after 4 years of archi. LUKS broke, the h264/h265 aren’t there, and it has redhat’s repo of flatpak selectioned by default rather than flathub. But hey, at least printers work OOTB!

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…and the installer is garbage.

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And slow repo sync but it’s not that important

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I’d disagree with that, mostly.

The media codecs is bloody annoying, yes. Sure it’s only a command or two, but it really should just be a tickbox in the installer like it is on, say, Ubuntu. So big agreement there.

As for the Flatpak repo, Fedora switched to Flathub as the default a while ago. IIRC it only doesn’t if you choose to have no non-foss software during the installation (in which case of course you’d expect to not get full Flathub access!)

I think Fedora is an overall pretty great distro for beginners aside from their media codecs bone-headedness and their god-awful installer (which is getting replaced).

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I always just say “and google ‘what should I do after installing fedora’ and follow along except ‘fastest mirror=true’ don’t bother.”

Seems to work fine so far. 'Swhat I did.

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Looks like open suze is going to experience more corporate bullshyt
The parent is suggesting the non corporate part is going to need to be renamed

I lost interest in open suze after I was dead ended on version 15

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Tumbleweed is a very good distro. I hope it survives the upcoming wave of BS. It probably will.

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Supposedly Leap will move to whatever SUSE goes to. ALP or something? I lost track of names and options

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SUSE also has multiple controversial pacts with Microsoft, and has for a long time. Such as the Novell-Microsoft agreement.

There was a time when it looked possible that MS was going to sue lots of Linux projects, and SUSE immediately jumped into a cosy relationship with MS so that if it did happen, they’d be shielded. This was interpreted as a fuck you to other FOSS projects by much of the community. (Was a long time ago though)

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SUSE isn’t owned by Novell anymore though. So this isn’t particularly relevant.

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They aren’t, no. But SUSE has continued working with MS, and many of the people that were there are still there.

Perhaps their close relationship is an irrational thing to point at in the current year. Perhaps it isn’t. I don’t really know tbh.

But it’s certainly something some people are still a bit iffy about. And I’m sure some people will still be similarly iffy about RedHat in 10 years too for their recent licencing controversy.

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Who tf is out there recommending new people Arch? What a non-issue!

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I might recommend something Arch-based that’s opinionated and feature-complete, like Manjaro or Garuda, but I’d recommend pure Arch to the same people who would equally enjoy NixOS.

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I’ve seen it a handful of times and find it pretty wild. It’s certainly not some widespread thing.

I do agree with the point, though.

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Its a good way to learn how different parts of Linux work

After you install arch a couple times you won’t be making posts asking why your grub is broken, youll already k ow how to fix it.

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The last time my grub was broken was around 2012 when I ran Arch. After that I have rarely thought about grub at all.

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OK so just dont learn the fundamentals I guess.

Really lazy attitude

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I’d recommend something that guesses how to install grub onto your system correctly for beginners, and let them figure this stuff out when they’re used to basic Linux usage TBH

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I had many problems with installing grub in a dual boot configuration, so much so that I moved to systemd-boot and never had problems after. I don’t know why, but it’s config file approach felt more intuitive.

I’m actually not sure why GRUB is such a popular boot loader that comes packaged with so many distros. Maybe GRUB does something more complex than just bootloading, but I don’t know if most users would care…

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All too often. It’s crazy but I see it all the time, and try to call it out.

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