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Did windows/defenestration shit ever happen in Ukraine like before all the current stuff?

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This happened in Moscow, Russia.

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I know, I’m asking if this kinda thing was ever occurring in Ukraine prior to the war (people falling out of windows). It seems incredibly Russian

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The USSR were high on assassinations of their own people if that’s what you’re asking. Obviously it’s not a brilliant strategy because it just means that the people who are the most talented are going to not want to rise to the top or going to want to the rise to the top in other countries.

It’s ultimately self-defeating, which of course is why only Putin thinks it’s a swell idea.

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Is it, or was it before the war? In Ukraine, like you’re asking?

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10 points

Its not a Ukrainian thing at all, its the Kremlin.

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It’s tangential to the war in Ukraine. Russia has been accused recently of reporting false economic numbers to hide the war’s impact.

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Agreed, Putin is worried about support at home and also needs people abroad to think Russia is strong and can continue the Kremlin’s barbaric war. The economist didn’t want to cook the books like Putin suggested, so they were murdered.

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Darn. Wasn’t the Economist I was hoping it would be.

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I mean, yeah.

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So is Russia’s plan at this point just to kill everyone in their country very very slowly?

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16 points

Putin’s plan, and anyone who supports him, but yeah. This is the look of a fascist nation, just kill off anyone who opposes you as the world slowly unifies against your actions until someone in your country kills you, or those you’ve wronged reach your doorstep and you kill yourself. Granted not all fascist nations end up like this, often they have years of terrible reign for their people, it generally only changes when they decide they need more land

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They just have to be unpredictable and unexpected. The idea is to have everyone terrified at all times. That is the most efficient scenario for control, as you don’t have to police actual rules if the rules are made up and the consequences are lethal.

This is pretty typical in totalitarian terrorist governments like Russia, NK and past dictatorships like Cambodia, Libya, Chile and Uganda.

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The idea is to have everyone terrified at all times. That is the most efficient scenario for control, as you don’t have to police actual rules if the rules are made up and the consequences are lethal.

Doesn’t this method have diminishing returns? As soon as the populace believes anything and everything will get them killed by the state, there’s nothing preventing the populous from rising against the state because they have nothing to lose.

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There’s a balancing point. Most people aren’t really able to process the idea of “they came for my neighbor and I said nothing” and do something about it.

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