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I really hate that we are calling this wave of technology “AI”, because it isn’t. It is “Machine Learning” sure, but it is just brute force pattern recognition v2.0.

The desired outcomes you define and then the data you train it on both have a LOT of built-in biases.

It’s a cool technology I guess, but it’s being misused across the board. It is being overused and misused by every company with FOMO. Hoping to get some profit edge on the competition. How about we have AI replace the bullshit CEO and VP positions instead of trying to replace fast food drive through workers and Internet content.

I guess that’s nothing new for humans… One human invents the spear for fishing and the rest use them to hit each other over the head.

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I agree with most of your points, but i don’t entirely like the “this is not intelligence” line of thought. We don’t even know yet how to define intelligence, and pattern recognition sounds a LOT like what our brains do. The hype is of course ridiculous, and the ways it’s being used is just stupid, but i do think pattern recognition could be a solid basis for whatever we end up considering intelligence.

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All you are saying is, is that intelligence isnt as smart as we think, that human intelligence is actually pretty dumb. That doesnt change anything about the current situation even if thats true though.

So we all agree its actually human level intelligence now, what then? Can we stop developing it and do something else now?

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Naw, humanity needs to waste more electricity.

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Lol, wtf XD

“That doesnt change anything about the current situation even if thats true though.”

Yeah, i assumed me writing “I agree with most of your points” conveyed that. Do you always imagine random things to attack instead of just reading what people actually write?

wtf O_o

I just don’t like people being like “but it’s not real intelligence” while we don’t even know what intelligence is, and we’re thus avoiding the one part of this stupid hype that could be interesting:: philosophical questions about our own intelligence/humanity/…

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Maybe it is human-like intelligence. It’s dumb as shit, but have you met people?

LMAO

But yeah, I guess at its core, human intelligence and machine intelligence are both just pattern recognition, but I guess my point is that calling it “AI” gives people this false sense that it is something it is not. AI has been a thing in Sci-fi for so long that we all think of Data from Star Trek or C-3PO from Star Wars and similar. When in reality it is more akin to a robot arm in a factory doing the same task really fast and really precisely, but it isn’t some adaptable all-purpose thing yet.

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That for sure is a problem with all modern bullshit technologies they want to hype in order to get people to use/buy it.

Look at smart tv’s… everyone assumes they’re awesome since they’re smart tv’s, that’s of course better than a regular tv. They’ll of course never mention that this just means that it’s a tv with a 100$ android box embedded that they’ll abuse to try to serve you extra ads, that they’ll not bother to update so your tv becomes obsolete in a couple of years, and that you can achieve the same thing by just buying the android box sepearately and connect that to a regular tv, which won’t make your entire tv become obsolete when the cheap android box doesn’t get updated anymore…

So yeah, i can imagine you have an issue with it being marked as (competent) AI.

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Pattern recognition is one thing that our brains do, it is a very long way away from the only thing our brains do.

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[citation needed]

But yeah, that’s the kind of discussion i’d love to see in more depth :). When would an AI be considered intelligent? It used to be passing the turing test, but now that’s being achieved the goalposts are moving, and that’s maybe for a good reason, but what will be the actual measure :).

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To be fair, this works with humans, too.

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Hence the comment about “bias automation”

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AI reflects its training data??? Shocking!

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Yes, contradicting the claim that it’s “more objective”.

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I don’t understand why anyone writing, reading or commenting on this think a bookshelf would not change the outcome? Like what do you people think these ml models are, human brains? Are we still not below even the first layer of understanding?

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The problem is the hysteria behind it, leading people to confuse good sounding information with good information. At least when people generally produce information they tend to make an effort to get it right. Machine learning is just an uncaring bullshitting machine, that is rewarded on the basis of the ability to fool people (turns out the Turing test was a crappy benchmark for practice-ready AI besides writing poems), and VC money hasn’t reached the “find out” phase of that looming lesson, when we all just get collectively exhausted by how underwhelming the AI fad is.

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Yeah, the hysteria is definitely the problem. Can’t say that I agree that the technology is underwhelming, though. It can generate, practically anything fast and with guidance and it’s just interesting that nobody really understands how. It’s a paradigm shift for creative work. Producing music or art will continue to change a lot from this. Using the technology to analyse personalities during job interviews is so fundamentally idiotic, because a generative system is a brainstorming tool, not analytical nor accurate. And just so wrong that it feels like it’s actually the work of someone malicious.

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I wonder if it’s actually interpreting the bookshelf or if having such a busy background is taking a toll on the compression. That would alter the details on the person’s face

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Good and interesting question. I bet you could test it by using static (high entropy) as a background vs the control plain color.

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I’m not working right now because I’m putting my daughter through online school. (Also due to an illness) She graduates in five years.

I am never getting another job, am I?

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Just have a bookshelf behind you during the interview, you’ll be golden.

Or maybe have the oval office as a backdrop, that might really make you qualified.

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Just get a bookshelf poster.

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