Summary

Trump’s campaign warnings of an economic crash under Kamala Harris have resurfaced as markets plunge under his own administration.

In 2024, Trump predicted a “1929-style depression” if Harris won. Now, following his April 2 “Liberation Day” tariff hikes, global markets are collapsing.

The Dow fell nearly 350 points, while major international indices dropped 8–13%. Critics call the crash ironic and self-inflicted, with “every accusation is an admission” trending online.

Economists warn Trump’s trade war and unilateral tariffs could trigger the very recession he once forecasted under Democrats.

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But we avoided a genocide!

Only we didn’t.

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The number of people who believe they have the moral high ground because they “didn’t vote for genocide” would be funny if it wasn’t for all of the genocide going on.

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What? They assured me the candidates were equivalent! I mean, a cucumber is equivalent to a rotting corpse, isn’t it?

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Maybe the people committing a genocide while trying to defeat a fascist in an election should have thought of that. Seriously, unless you also spread the blame to the Biden/Harris campaign, you are being pro-genocide yourself.

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They ran a terrible campaign and spent way too much time courting the right and parading out war criminals as allies. They almost definitely would not have done anything meaningful to stop the genocide in Gaza. Feel better now?

You shouldn’t because the current regime is accelerating that genocide, starting their own genocide of trans people, disappearing legal residents, destabilizing the global economy, dismantling our educational systems, and toying with the idea of World War 3. Before you shriek “BOTH SIDES” again, maybe ask yourself if Harris would be threatening to invade Greenland right now. You also need to recognize that until our entire electoral system changes, not voting for the lesser evil is often equivalent to voting for the greater evil.

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I didn’t know Netanyahu and the country of Israel was running for American president.

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The democrats could have avoided fascism!

Only they chose genocide instead.

The voters are a blatant scape goat. The dems pissed away their chances of winning either through brutal incompetence, complete disconnect with their voters or deep seeded corruption. They put the interest of a foreign genocidal nation over those of all Americans.

Blaming normal people that felt conflicted about genocide does nothing. Even worse, it will probably lead to getting the same kind of apathy driven platform next election.

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I remember when their entire policy was 100% we’re going to go kill children and it’s the US doing this and not a foreign nation, so make sure to vote for the fascist who supports genocide but also wants to make the victim give up it’s territory for a resort area as well instead.

no, wait, that was the russian and chinese social engineering shifting the narrative so dumbfucks could feel justified in voting away their own rights not to be deported to Salvadorian internment camps.

or maybe you’re a russian, I don’t know. If so, good job, you got us good.

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Is it the Russian and Chinese that bribed the dems to run with it too? Lol

They could have, idk, stopped selling bombs to a genocidal state and condemned them instead. To pretend how they approached it wasn’t a massive fuck up is silly.

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Liberals will continue to scapegoat voters because it allows them to evade hard-to-swallow truths. It allows them to use political apathy as a means to explain fascism because otherwise, they’d have to start taking hard stances on American capitalism that are not compatible with their liberal framework. I often wonder how these people think fascism arose in Germany, or in general. According to the liberal framework, Nazism arose either because Germans were not adequately “enthusiastic” about Hitler’s political adversaries, because of foreign meddling, etc… Never will you hear them take the next step and start to wonder how capitlalism (and specifically capitalist crisis) gives rise to fascist movements because that would be incompatible with one of the foremost pillars of liberalism: freedom of the market. Once you start to talk about German Nazism in terms of results of the great depression, German nationalism as a result of WWI, German industrialization, historical analysis, etc… their eyes will just glaze over. As the devolution continues, we’ll see them use increasingly mystical language as they waffle to explain fascism without invoking any semblance of class-based analysis. We’ll see them grasp for reasons: is there a nationwide trump cult? Is it russian spies? Is it fox news? Is it Joe rogan podcasts? Is it lead from the gasoline 70 years ago? We will never see them ask what the only logical conclusion is to a settler colonial nation that was founded exclusively by 20-something, white, male, landowning, slavers for the sole reason of doing massive genocide on native Americans.

These people are watching the fascist devolution happen in real time, so they’re just digging in to the Hamilton musical vibes of american exceptionalism. Once shit starts getting real bad, I fully expect them to take the scapegoating to the extreme. They’ll start selling out and calling ICE on the Muslim and Arab Americans in Dearborn who refused to vote for a candidate who promised to slaughter their brothers and sisters in Gaza, Lebanon, and beyond. Since, according to their framework, these Dearborn voters who withheld votes for democrats ultimately helped usher in fascism. They’ll start selling out leftists as shit gets bad - exactly as they did in fascist Germany.

All the while, Marxists have perfectly predicted not only this devolution, but they foresaw how liberals would react. Fascism os not some enigmatic, nebulous concept that comes out of nowhere, but a predictable outcome of capitalist crisis; Marxism gives you the tools not only to predict it, but to fight it.

To the liberals still removed about leftists who wouldn’t vote for biden or kamala: Constituents wanted an end to genocide. Biden and Kamala ignored constituents. Biden and Kamala lost. That is how democracy works. This outcome is more American than apple pie.

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im not going to take advice rant from an ML account, your views are way to skewed to even taken seriously.

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The genicide was going to happen regardless. No one issue cost the dems the election. And if they want to win another election they’ll address issues including genicide.

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nah, it was ongoing every presidency, the election never took notice, until kamala was the candidate, then russian backed misinformation push it to the forefront of every news network, and made it a “problem”. ive said it on reddit both parties and the constituencies have arnt that concerned with the conflict as much as domestic issues, the protest against gaza vote made was very small part of the voting population anyways.

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I remember a friend saying that kamala was going to release all these criminals because she was against for profit prisons, then trump released all those criminals and crickets

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That would have been the day! A prosecutor releasing all the successful convictions!

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she was also laughing like a hyena, according to them.

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To be fair, the crickets were being held unjustly.

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Putin is laughing so hard right now that he is shitting his pants.

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i doubt he can laugh, with all the botox he had on his face.

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Heard it doesn’t take him much at the moment - the slightest chuckle will probably do.

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sexism and racism is what got him in the presidency.

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twice

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Paraphrasing an american saying, “You can paint orange a turd, but it is still a turd.”

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And grant it immunity!

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