264 points

He doesn’t give a shit about the mass starvation, shantytowns, global economic depression, and rise of Nazism into the largest war in human history that left hundreds of millions dead. No, he’s worried because his party wasn’t in power.

Fuck yourself with the largest, sharpest cactus that exists on the planet, you slimy, snivelling pathetic excuse for a fucking human, Rand Paul.

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84 points

Oh no, what if democrats gain power and give us all healthcare and actually take care of the sick and poor. Wouldn’t that be terrible?

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28 points

Oh no, what if democrats gain power and give us all healthcare and actually take care of the sick and poor. Wouldn’t that be terrible?

It would be unexpected.

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6 points

Means they will have another go at undoing all that, is the circle of shit life.

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6 points

The circle of sociopathy.

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15 points

He doesn’t have a party, he follows money and his popularity with his crazy fuckin base. The Republican party bought him just like they bought Reagan and I’m still not sure how anyone could be fooled by the exact same playbook.

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7 points

I read your first paragraph as a prediction of the future, until l realized that you were talking about the Great Depression and WWII.

“Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it” is supposed to be cautionary, but MAGA sees it as a game plan.

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5 points

The largest war in human history, so far…

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I’m like, wait, what happened in the 1930s that meant the wipeout of the republicans and what happened in the next 60 years?

Oh yes, an overinflated market crashed during the republican presidency, the burst ignited by the proposal of a tariff increase law, made to shield American industries and that was actually signed into law and significantly worsened the great depression. This pretty much caused the rise of Nazism in Germany and WW2

What happened then in the next 60 years? Oh yeah, the US won the war and became the biggest world superpower, the economy boomed and you had pretty much the most prosperous time in America’s history.

Maaaaybe a republican wipeout isn’t that bad now, is it?

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147 points

I wish American Voters had memories longer than 4 years. But they don’t.

They got pissed at Bush and the Republicans in 2006 for the war and in 2008 for crashing the economy.

And 2 years later in 2010 they voted in a red wave not seen since reconstruction.

Donald Trump tried to overthrow the government and 4 years later they gave him another chance. If Trump shot a crowd of people on 5th avenue the kids of the victims would vote for him 4 years later.

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40 points

There were massive voter suppression campaigns in both those election cycles. And it doesn’t help that the neo Liberals highjacked the democratic party, marginalizing labor. People are not motivated to vote for the lesser of two evils.

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People are not motivated to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Neoliberals and centrists need to get this through their firewall of condescencion towards leftists, no matter how much y’all hate leftists (and laugh at leftists with your more conservative friends) you need to understand the average person in the US hates you and your leaders far more than than they hate genuine leftists that actually fight for the working class instead of spitting on them and publicly calling them stupid.

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11 points

Neoliberals and centrists need to get this through their firewall of condescencion towards leftists

It won’t. They benefit from corporate greed as much as the right does. They are enablers of fascism.

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Leftists in America are a tiny minority that happens to be in a kingmaker role because the Dems and Repubs are nearly evenly matched. There is no vast silent majority of Leftists. You’re in an internet bubble.

YOU need to get onboard with OUR ideas.

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-3 points

Democracy will not save us. People that won’t vote unless they fall in love can fall out of love much more easily.

Do vote, it’s low effort and it can make a marginal difference. Just make your plans assuming you party will lose and if they win they will disappoint.

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Your treating this as if the same people are voting different ways. It’s usually much more along the lines of voters staying home one election and voting in another.

Edit - autocorrect got naughty!

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12 points

Keep in mind that the voting system itself is rigged. States with lower populations tend to have more representation per capita due to the Electoral College. This biases everything towards red states.

And that doesn’t even get at the decades of gerrymandering…

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8 points

EC needs to go away, too.

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9 points

And they have the gall to say they’re voting that way “for the economy”

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122 points

I’ve stopped believing there is anything that will make people stop voting Republican

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44 points

Lack of elections could….

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1 point

How’s that for government efficiency?! Don’t even have to vote anymore.

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11 points

I’m thinking the breadlines will probably manage.

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39 points

Breadlines?.. Have you been paying attention to the actions of the last decades? They even arrest church staff for feeding homeless people.

No. They just want people to die in the gutter.

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Yeah, this time around there will be no government assisted breadlines cause this government is ineffectual at best and outright malicious at worst.

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7 points

With the current price of bread? Nah, it will be Soylent protein bars this time around (the green ones are the best!).

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1 point

How does it taste?

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2 points

Breadlines ? That’s socialism. Can’t have that…

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6 points

Certainly not for the folks who just think they are Republicans like it’s a racial identity or something. That’s some shit I can’t understand.

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117 points

The Republican party deserves to die for allowing Donald Trump to rise to power. The Democrat party deserves to die for being useless to stop them. America needs a whole new fresh start with new parties

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15 points

or better yet, no parties at all and force some of our morons to actually learn their candidates beyond just party lines.

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6 points

Idk, I’d totally be in favor of ranked voting; with several parties that correspond to music genres where people could identify the party’s values based on vibes. Ex: Acid Polka Party, Nu Delta Blues Party, Hyper Uplifting Metal Party, etc.

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1 point

That will never happen.

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13 points

We were within 2% of stopping them. If you bastards had got on board, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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11 points

Let’s blame the voters instead of our shit policy and campaign that promises them nothing much more than republican lite

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19 points

I blame the owners of news and social media. How can people make good decisions if they can’t perceive reality?

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13 points

Would that not be better than full fascism?

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12 points

The voters and especially the non-voters are to blame along with the politicians. Why shouldn’t they be responsible for voting against their own interests or sitting it out after having seen a Trump presidency?

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12 points

Why not both.

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No fuck yes. Blame them.

Are you saying that trump won because his policy and campaign was stellar.

Trump won because his base acted instead of passively watching. They took over everything and all the left could say was “don’t roll with them something something pigs”

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5 points

Chaotic evil is more showy but that doesn’t mean that lawful evil isn’t also evil.

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-3 points

Na. It’s the Democrats politicians fault. Send more money to Israel.

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8 points

Part of me wonder if this is worth saving. We need to start over.

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9 points

All things end.

I just wish I wasn’t alive when it happened.

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6 points

Where’s Thanos when we need him

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6 points

A quick snap death would be preferable to what’s coming.

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8 points

See, they thought they could control him, like they did Reagan, and Bush Jr. Bush Sr. went along willingly.

But Trump is an overgrown 5 year old, and needs to feel he’s in charge. Like any typical narcissist.

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1 point

Or, better idea, no parties like the founders intended

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-2 points

But bruh if u vote for third party, it’s a win for Donald Trump bruh.

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16 points

It needs a new electoral system too.

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5 points

Yep the one that farmers does not select president for whole United States and 6th largest economy of world aka California.

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6 points

It’s a nice catch 22 innit

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That was correct. Until the day the voting system changes, voting third party for anything national will be the same as not voting at all as far as results go. This isn’t good, it isn’t right, but it’s the world we live in and the system we are operating under.

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5 points

It literally was.

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101 points

Notice that’s their top concern. Not hurting Americans, not pissing off allies, not a recession, not handing off the title of World Superpower to China, but losing their jobs is their top concern.

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*losing power over others not just theor jobs

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not handing off the title of World Superpower to China

They put in the hours. Maybe they’ve fucking earned it. But if it makes you feel any better, most of the BRICS are rocketing upwards and positioned to match or eclipse the US by the end of the century. That’s just what happens when you implement modern industrial policies under a more egalitarian social system. Spreading the wealth engages more of the population in high value productive activities that benefit the national economy in the long run.

After you’ve built a broadly productive economic engine, the only thing holding you back is the size of your productive population. At that point, policies like universal health care and efficient mass transit really start paying dividends.

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It’s not like they needed us to fumble in order to take the trophy, but all the same we didn’t need to just hand them the ball and walk away.

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