Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

China: 34%

European Union: 20%

South Korea: 25%

India: 26%

Vietnam: 46%

Taiwan: 32%

Japan: 24%

Thailand: 36%

Switzerland: 31%

Indonesia: 32%

Malaysia: 24%

Cambodia: 49%

United Kingdom: 10%

Rest of the world: 10%

325 points

Is he using a random number generator?

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bamboozle them with bullshit

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Imma just post this video here: https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no

What the current administration is doing tracks with this video fairly accurately. Basically, “Network States” are what they want. It’s basically what exists in Honduras right now in the form of "Prospera, which is a network state that operates in that country.

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The following quote from ChrisO_wiki on bsky

“@chriso-wiki.bsky.social Just figured out where these fake tariff rates come from. They didn’t actually calculate tariff rates + non-tariff barriers, as they say they did. Instead, for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country’s exports to us.” Just about sums it up.

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11 points

Damn, I’d like to see the data on that.

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56 points

No, it’s half the tariff those countries place on American goods. Or so he claims. I have no idea where those numbers come from.

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110 points

He doesn’t understand what VAT is.

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104 points

He doesn’t understand anything. Here’s what he said about income taxes and tariffs today.

They established the income tax so that citizens, rather than foreign countries, would start paying the money necessary to run our government

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It’s probably like his net worth, where “it goes up and down with the markets and with attitudes and with feelings”, “even my own feelings, as to where the world is, where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day”.

https://money.cnn.com/2011/04/21/news/companies/donald_trump/index.htm

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5 points

Like he would even know what that is.

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1 point

Apparently ChatGPT.

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226 points

“our country has been looted, pillaged, raped, plundered”

by other nations selling their goods to us cheaply, and by them accepting our Dollars that cost us nothing to make for it!!

I don’t think Trump understands the benefits and privileges for USA of having the top international reserve currency.
But maybe if he ruins it quick enough, he may find out?

Play stupid games and win stupid prices.

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Play stupid games and win stupid prices.

He is playing Vlad Putin 8D Chess, not Donald Trump 1D Checkers. https://lemmy.world/post/27627662/16165977 This was all planned in 2013.

Introduction to the Kremlin media techniques of year 2014

  1. Peter Pomerantsev September 9, 2014: Russia and the Menace of Unreality. How Vladimir Putin is revolutionizing information warfare

  2. Adam Curtis, BBC, December 31, 2014: On The “Contradictory Vaudeville” Of Post-Modern Politics - “What this film is going to suggest is that that defeatist response has become a central part of a new system of political control. And to understand how this is happening, you have to look to Russia, to a man called Vladislav Surkov, who is a hero of our time. Surkov is one of President Putin’s advisers, and has helped him maintain his power for 15 years, but he has done it in a very new way.”

  3. Book reading from December 5, 2014 on the subject by Peter Pomerantsev

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Own your president Trump. Even if your theory was true, and I won’t qualify it, nothing of this could have been possible without a ruined education system and mindless propaganda. All of this starts way before 2013.

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Own your president Trump.

People need to own up to anonymous no-identity social media addiction. The egomania they get chasing junk (drugs) off of Apple iPhone / iPad / Samsung / machine devices. Donald Trump is entirely an Apple iPhone addict in egomania off machine lust, as too is Elon Musk.

nothing of this could have been possible without a ruined education system and mindless propaganda.

Nothing is more mindless than the education people get off of Lemmy memes, Reddit memes, Bluesky memes, Fox News HDTV, Joe Rogan. That’s the education that creates an audience for Donald Trump. Self-centered eoomania, like the Middle East gets with one religion vs. another religion. Fiction addiction problems are raging in USA.

Even if your theory was true

My theory:

“When a population becomes distracted by trivia, when cultural life is redefined as a perpetual round of entertainments, when serious public conversation becomes a form of baby-talk, when, in short, a people become an audience, and their public business a vaudeville act, then a nation finds itself at risk; culture-death is a clear possibility.” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, 1985 !BackTo1985@lemm.ee

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I’d argue it started with Bush and his No Child Left Behind bullshit. It forced a certain curriculum to leave out common sense and critical thinking skills

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One of my main rules of life is that people are most suspicious of the behavior they are most likely to perform. Cheaters think they’re being cheated on, thieves think everybody is stealing from them. If HitlerPig thinks everyone else is looting, pillaging, raping, and plundering, its because that what he does.

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Buying from other economies does two things. One, you have access to their expertise/efficiency.

Not everyone will have invested in the same industry.

Will miss out on cheap labour. Cheap resources.

Don’t be dumb though, selling us USD for our products isn’t just “printing paper”. We use those USD (mostly we sell the debt to china) to buy USA companies. It’s capitalism after all.

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208 points

A lot of people’s lives are about to get more expensive… again.

<butterfly meme> Is this winning?

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China and Vietnam are producing a lot of the low cost every day items people use. It’s going to hit the lower income people the hardest. Thank goodness I’m in Canada.

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21 points

Timu: shop like a billionaire because only billionaires can afford the cheap Chinese garbage.

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Shit might hit the fan harder and faster in USA, but don’t be fooled: Canada and every other country in the world will be gravely affected: less trade, prices inflate, some goods become hard to find at all at any price, etc. US $ after all is the big reserve currency and all international trade was de facto protected by US military hegemony. Probably countries like North Korea or Iran will see least influence from all this… It’s insane to watch this happening. Their main goal really just seems to be to create chaos. And from chaos… rises whatever authoritarian state they want to create after declaring some state of emergency shit and after the superwealthy gobbled up all the failing companies at bargain prices. It’s like they’re organising a reenactment of the “shock therapy” that crashed the Russian economy on a speedrun after the soviet union fell apart.

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Mainly American people’s lives. He’s basically making everything more expensive in USA that is not made in USA, but most things made in USA are dependent on imported parts, fertilizers, components, raw materials etc… This is going to be a mess to witness

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28 points

You’re going to get tired of winning tariffs.

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4 points

It’s winning for magats because they wanted to hurt people

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The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

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13 points

um, yeah. we heard you the first 5 times, why do you keep reposting the same comment over and over?

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I mean, this will suck in rhe short term, but these companies will exit the U.S. market if it gets to be uneconomical, and we’ll be fucked, not them. Trump’s I Am sO sMaRt comments all the time will make him look like an even bigger idiot than he already does.

If we actually want manufacturing in the U.S., give companies incentives to do business here. This is the opposite of incentives.

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What is looking like more of an idiot than he already does going to accomplish? He’s the most idiotic politician in living memory, by far, and there are some absolutely colossal morons on that list. The people who haven’t figured that out are never going to. They will be praising him until the day they die.

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Never underestimate the destruction that stupid people in position of power can do.

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What is looking like more of an idiot than he already does going to accomplish? He’s the most idiotic politician in living memory, by far, and there are some absolutely colossal morons on that list.

He is a Reality TV star. People can not resist mocking Donald Trump. Mocking isn’t resisting, mockery is all part of the Kremlin media techniques. The more idiotic he and Elin Musk behaves, the more people rush to their social machines and LOL. People can not resist his orange skin color, it makes skin color a constant topic (brown, black, white, orange, etc).

Introduction to the Kremlin media techniques of year 2014

  1. Peter Pomerantsev September 9, 2014: Russia and the Menace of Unreality. How Vladimir Putin is revolutionizing information warfare

  2. Adam Curtis, BBC, December 31, 2014: On The “Contradictory Vaudeville” Of Post-Modern Politics - “What this film is going to suggest is that that defeatist response has become a central part of a new system of political control. And to understand how this is happening, you have to look to Russia, to a man called Vladislav Surkov, who is a hero of our time. Surkov is one of President Putin’s advisers, and has helped him maintain his power for 15 years, but he has done it in a very new way.”

  3. Book reading from December 5, 2014 on the subject by Peter Pomerantsev

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It isn’t quite that easy.

The US is a MASSIVE part of basically every luxury industry and isn’t insignificant in many others. So while alternate trading partners can be found to handle stuff like lumber, plenty of industries are going to be hit real hard and not have alternative customers. And they aren’t going to just want to lower their profits for national pride.

But yeah. I REALLY hope trump is just actively destroying the US either in the name of putin or just out of anger and spite over not winning in 2020. Because the alternative is that we are all going to suffer so fucking much because that piece of shit doesn’t understand what tariffs are.

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Luxury goods are not really hit by tariffs nor taxes the same way more basic goods might be. A $ 4000 bag that goes to $ 4 500 is way more manageable for the kind of people who want to and can buy it (it may even make it more desirable for those who want and can’t buy it).

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I REALLY hope trump is just actively destroying the US either in the name of putin

People won’t discuss that this was all planned in a November 2013 Moscow meeting and announced one month later in December 2013… shortly before the February 2014 Ukraine invasion. https://lemmy.world/post/27627662/16165977

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The effects of widespread tariffs is well known.

You will lose industry that makes high added-value products, and increase the production of products with low added-value. (Most people call this “deindustrialization”.)

Tariffs mostly don’t impact the overall trade balance, so there’s no reason to expect that one to change.

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Except, for example many Canadians, who are really fed up with being the kick ball for American Presidents (Trump has a lot of company when it comes to tariffs), who will do their best to not buy anything from the USA. I predict our trade deficit will go in the opposite direction that Trump hopes. The USA still needs to buy electricity, gas/oil, wood, and various other raw products from Canada. We don’t have to buy finished goods from the USA since there are plenty of other countries to supply them. We really don’t need to vacation there.

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AFAIK, most low added-value products the US net exports are food. Also AFAIK, Canada mostly doesn’t buy those, but the countries that do buy them won’t just stop.

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And since we haven’t moved the needle on the minimum wage in decades, people will be making those low-added value products at starvation wages.

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4 points

Well, yes, wages tend to decrease on that shift.

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The glue eating rageaholic is doing the opposite of this. He’s going to tarrif farming EXPORTS from the US.

Never in our history has america had such a stupid president.

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Wait, what?

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If we actually want manufacturing in the U.S., give companies incentives to do business here

Like the CHIPS act? The EV and related items? Infrastructure? High speed rail (most of which has a made in us requirement)? What happened to those again?

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5 points

The current administration is trying to pull the funding back even tho its been appropriated by congress. Funny how congress isn’t doing anything about it.

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The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

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Conveniently left Russia out. I wonder why.

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Russia and North Korea.

It’s official. We are the baddies now.

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… Now?

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Then too, also now.

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If we can’t buy anythibg from North Korea, what would be tariffed?

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Just stopped pretending to be good.

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I am not.

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They are rest of the World. How dissrespectfull.

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I think you’re reading too much into that.

They’re either under “Rest of world” like the EU, or the US doesn’t import anything from it, which as it’s under sanctions, it shouldn’t - nor export to.

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UK is also 10% like the rest of world. Why was it mentioned seperately? It’s not like Russia is a small country.

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Like the EU?

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