Democrats just won their biggest electoral victory of the second Trump era. And Elon Musk lost big.

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I know that Americans are starved for good news, but Democrats didn’t “trounce” anybody. They kept a majority they already had, which is nice but not impressive. This isn’t the start of a glorious counterattack against the forces of reaction.

Edit: To explain a little what I mean, think of the amount of information you get from the event that a fair die rolls a number less than 5 once. Even if something good happened because of that result, it’s still nothing to be surprised at. I’m saying that this election victory is like rolling a die and getting a number less than 5; it tells you nothing about the die. For all you know it’s still a fair die—rather than, say, a die that’s more likely to output a one than a six.

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But it is a refute to the idea that there is a “voter mandate” for Trump. This was a state wide election that just a few months ago voted for Trump. It also isn’t as simple as the democrats keeping their seat. The incumbent left, so the seat was vacant. Not a “trouncing,” but you’re downplaying it too much.

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I mean Wisconsin voted for Trump, but it leans blue for other offices no? The fact that they voted for Trump in November is more an indictment of the DNC than anything to do with Wisconsin itself. That aside what I’m trying to say is that this result doesn’t tell us anything new; it’s nice but like I said isn’t the result of conservatives turning on Trump. Democrats keeping that seat was expected, likely even.

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Wisconsin as a whole does tend to lean blue. The margins aren’t large though. Last mid term Evers (D) won for governor but the same election Johnson ® won for senate. The Democrat opposition for that election was Barnes, who was definitely progressive leaning, but ran a terrible campaign that the DNC didn’t help until it was too late. We are still a swing state.

isn’t the result of conservatives turning on Trump

Nobody is saying it is. It’s that group of swing voters that have immediately changed from liking Trump to rejecting Elon and Trump. You’ll never turn his cult base, but you also don’t have to.

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It’s really just more proof that the election was rigged, like Trump confessed to on air.

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At least in my area of Wisconsin all but one of the items on my ballot didn’t go the way I hoped it would. And that was the state constitution amendment which was deliberately written to manipulate voters. Jill Underly held her office as state superintendent of public instruction, the school referendum passed and Susan Crawford won a vacant supreme court seat. So while not wins all the way down they are very important regardless

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Do you mean that only one didn’t go the way you’d hoped it would? Either way I’m not saying these wins aren’t important, but rather that they’re not unexpected. It doesn’t give us any new information (such as “Conservatives are starting to sour on Trump’s agenda”), but is rather well within the realm of expectations in the same way tossing a coin and getting heads once doesn’t tell you much about the coin.

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