Most of the men in these comments have never tried speaking to a women.
The incels and misogynists are coming out in this thread, blaming women for shit and angrily downvoting comments that support women.
Dude, read the comments on this post and then go outside and talk to a woman. See if anything said here makes sense. Multiple people here have admitted to never being in a relationship or just giving up on it, so the op is pretty much right. This is a really sad side of Lemmy to see.
Didn’t they explicitly ask via #metoo movement and what not for men to NOT approach them directly ever or else they screem that this is harassment?
No that’s totally different. You can approach women just don’t be a douche/creep and respect the rejections and otherwise when it works you’re in.
Your point holds under circumstances that make them uncomfortable like during night or when they’re feeling unsafe because a few bad apples do invoke trauma.
If you’re not a bad apple you have nothing to worry about. Except femcels, those ones are misandrists and theres no hope like for incels. Leave them to correct themselves or stay alone forever.
I think that speaking out loud about malicious activities towards women is important and yes, harassment is real, but it really feels like society became almost too sensitive when it comes to approaching women. Some years ago there were video campaigns where they would literally show how one men stops another from talking to stranger female, before he was given a change to be either creepy or nice and respectful with like assumption that this is bad anyway. And also who’s to judge where’s the boundary between being creep or not anyway, this can be very subjective.
And it’s not my POV, I just speak about what I see in internet/media. Being gay introvert I couldn’t care less about talking to strangers…
If you’re not a bad apple you have nothing to worry about. Except femcels, those ones are misandrists and theres no hope like for incels.
It’s not always immediately obvious who those are. So every interaction is a dice roll to see if you get a date, get rejected politely, or screamed at and publicly dragged through the mud. Remember the Instagram gym girls yelling at gym bros glancing in their general direction? For a lot of younger men, the consequences of the risk, however small, outweigh the reward.
And women run the gamble of getting murdered because some little man couldn’t handle rejection, gonna be honest here bud, I think that’s a little bit worse than being posted on someone’s cringe compilation.
If you mistook ‘don’t be creepy’ for ‘don’t approach women at all,’ then yeah. You’re probably in a mental place where you shouldn’t approach.
Given how a lot of women are, don’t be creepy does mean “don’t approach them at all. Unless I’m interested in you, which I won’t tell you because men have to make the first move”.
Anon is probably in the US: social media, smartphones, and 3rd wave feminism in a deeply religious, traditional, and divided society would explain their problems.
“My programming tells me I have to disagree. I don’t know why so I’ll throw out the term I was taught to use”
ha! incel!
You sound like those right-wingers who think communism and socialism are evil terms that should be misconstrued as insults. “Guys, I called them a liberal! Where are my internet points?”
Bro you literally used the term ‘3rd wave feminism’. Have some self-awareness.
You know what? You’re right! Women’s rights and freedoms are the reason I can’t get my dick wet.
The men who are successful with dating are already dating or active in places where they are finding better success than clubs and arranged dating events.
The men who are unsuccessful at dating are confused and wary about women, who are no longer the compliant trad-wife wannabes that these men were lead to expect exist in numbers by the likes of “manospherian” influencers like Peterson, Tate, et al.
Not sure where you get the idea that “most men” are not dating. The description you make of what “most men” are doing sounds pretty much verbatim lifted out of something in the incel community.
Men are finally leaving women alone? I never thought I would see this day!