I am glad the grocery store across the street is adamant about no animals allowed, unless they are genuinely needed for service (like a seeing eye dog, not an emotional support animal). And I am a dog owner. The only store I would ever even considered bringing them into, is the pet store where itโs generally okay to bring them (especially since they do grooming and vaxx services).
Hate going to Walmart and seeing actual shit on the floor because some Karen wanted to bring her fucking designer Chihuahua into the store and doesnโt clean up after it.
I donโt live in Cali, but I was at a diner yesterday and some woman had her dog in one of the booths. Clearly not a service animal, no vest or anything. You know what ruins a pretty quick? Dog hair in your foodโฆ Especially if itโs not your dog.
I can top that. I saw a dog at a Korean barbecue restaurant. The ones that serve raw meat for you to cook at your table. Except this restaurant did it buffet style. I never went back.
I genuinely adore dogs and love seeing them anywhere I am! But places that sell and prepare food should be off-limits (except for service animals, of course. Their accessibility outweighs these concerns). Some people have super sensitive allergies, just pet dander/hairs floating through the air can be irritating or worse. Some people have a crippling fear of dogs, maybe for a reason? Pets may be fine 99% of the time around family/friends, but theyโre still animals. Unlike service animals, they havenโt been tested or screened for emergency situations or stress-tested. They can and do snap, and thereโs no way to know if it will happen. When it does, itโs lose/lose/lose: pain & suffering, lawsuits, and almost certainly a loving pet being euthanized.
Fully agree. Itโs just not sanitary either, and I know everyone will assume I mean their dog is dirty. I mean that any animal brings unknown elements into a place that makes food. One good shake of a wet dog and you have dirt and debris flying around people eating, and youโre exactly right things like that may affect others way more even if it doesnโt affect you.
Iโm okay with dogs in places like breweries, itโs still a risk but as long as there is plenty of space itโs probably fine. Food though adds a whole other element that I donโt think they belong in.
I work in hospitality and while all your points are valid I do wish there was a solution that allowed a little wiggle room accounting for good communication and personal responsibility.
There area where I live has dozens of small bars and pubs and my issue with every single place accommodating every possible allergic reaction and preference is that they can kind of end up samey. Iโm not saying itโs realistic but I donโt think itโd be a bad thing for Pub A to say Dogs are fine but no kids please as long as Pub B says Kids are great but no dogs and Pub C can say No kids or dogs but weird sex shit is fine. A man can dream!
I do agree with you. While the health concerns with dogs are valid, I do feel like there should be some designated dog friendly places. It can get really difficult to arrange your schedule around so that the dog doesnโt stay at home for too long. I live with my mom and my boyfriend, and we almost never go places with the 3 of us as a group.
Also, health issues aside, as far as being disruptive, I feel like kids can be just as disruptive. With so many businesses disallowing dogs, it can sometimes feel like youโre almost being punished for having a dog.
There is the canine good citizen test that many people do with their dogs.
Which means nothing when it comes to places that serve and sell food as the issue is the fecal bacterial cultures that spread when dogs lick their butts and then lick their feet as well as any allergy concerns.
Your dog could be the best behaved dog in the world and they still canโt get around biological realities.
I guess Iโd better not let my dog in the kitchen or dining area at home.
You germaphobes are fun.
Let me preface this by first saying I agree that dogs should generally not be allowed in food serving establishments because their hair goes everywhere and nobody likes eating dog hair.
With that said though, I have never once seen my dog lick his own butt. What on earth are other peopleโs dogs doing?! The closest my dog has gotten to licking his butt is licking around his genitalia, which I grant you is unclean as well, but heโs fluffy and keeps the hair between his legs clean and un-matted. But butt licking?!
Now hereโs where I get down voted to hell, but I have to play devilโs advocate lol. I would argue that kids are a MUCH larger vector of bacteria and viruses that are of concern to the average adult human than any dog. Dogs are gross, sure, but Iโll take a lick from a strange dog over a strange toddlerโs sticky hands on me!
We should keep dogs out of food places, but mostly cause hair and allergies - if weโre going to ban beings due to their gross factor though that list should be much longer (toddlers, homeless, anyone that didnโt wash their hands after using the restroomโฆ)
Yep. Service animals, drug-snuffing dogs, etc are usually just crowded into a room where a book is dropped. Then theyโre good to go!
I just returned to Canada after spending some months in Belgium. The first couple of times I saw dogs in restaurants and cafรฉs, I was slightly weirded out. But after seeing it happen repeatedly with nobody ever even batting an eye I realized it was totally normal there. And not once did I ever see a dog cause a problem or make any excessive noise. In the Netherlands as well.
Not a dog owner myself.
A lot of Europe is like this and I think part of the difference is social expectation with dogs. Because itโs more normal for dogs to go places, and less normal to have private yards at your home for your dog to spend time in, people in Europe tend to spend more time training their dogs to be good members of society because they basically have to. If you have to walk your dog multiple times a day for potty instead of letting it into the back yard, youโre probably more likely to make sure your dog is leash trained properly.
I also think the USA (and Canada to some extent as youโve kind of adopted many of our values, for good or ill) are more individualistic than many European countries. In America we train our pets because WE want them trained, not because of societal expectations about dog ownership. Itโs truly telling when you walk a dog that is properly leash trained and get compliments about how well trained your dog is. That a dog can walk on leash without pulling is the exception, not the norm. (This happened yesterday to me, just walking around a park path.) Itโs depressing. American individualism insists, โI donโt need to train my dog, heโs perfect being the cute little terrorist that he is, and if you donโt like it, thatโs your problem.โ As a result, dogs arenโt allowed most places in the US because entitled dog owners are the norm, not the minority. I love dogs, and I love taking my dog places, but if I owned a business of any kind I wouldnโt allow dogs because itโs not worth the headache here.
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