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6 points

4 months ago

but that’s not what the comment said?

Lots of people promote eugenics

people sometimes end up accidentally talking themselves into eugenics and promoting eugenics before somebody points out that they’re talking about eugenics

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP

11 points

4 months ago

But it is what the comment said. It’s saying that people promote eugenics without realizing it. They do so by talking about the mechanics of eugenics without naming them.

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3 points

4 months ago

i’m baffled as to what’s going on here

if you describe the mechanics of eugenics, people like the idea
if you label the mechanics of eugenics as eugenics, people do not like the idea

versus

if you describe the mechanics of marxism, people like the idea
if you label the mechanics of marxism as marxism, people do not like the idea

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP

7 points

4 months ago

Your confusion comes from the fact that you assume most people like the mechanics of eugenics. If that’s the sort of crowd you hang out with, then you may be associating with fascists.

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4 points

4 months ago

but that’s literally what the comment’s saying? and you’re saying "that’s an example of the opposite?

e.g., there’s a pretty good argument that pre-natal screening is a form of eugenics

if you describe the mechanics of pre-natal screening to somebody, i suspect most would be in support of that, but wouldn’t be if you described it using the term “eugenics”

like, if you were to notice that completing tertiary education makes it more difficult for people to have children, and you decided to create some form of government aid to offset that, then oopsie daisy you just did a eugenics, but you could absolutely package that idea in a way that most people would instinctively go “yeah that sounds okay”

also to preempt pls nobody do the intellectually dishonest thing of pretending me following this line of argument means im in love with eugenics and am here to argue for more eugenics or that i just dont think eugenics is such a bad thing after all thnk u

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Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org

7 points

4 months ago

This is all just semantics and how the word ‘opposite’ can be applied in different ways. I wouldn’t spend too much time on this.

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2 points

4 months ago

if you want to use the sentiment expressed in this post as an argument for marxism being good, which seems pretty transparent in this case, then that same sentiment being used to justify eugenics isn’t a good thing for said argument

i’m not that concerned with the precise definition of “opposite”, but i am concerned with whether or not the post’s logic is sound

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thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works

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2 points

4 months ago

But but there’s a person on the internet that might be wrong! *shakes fist at sky*