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Look, all these posts from accounts on lemmygrad, chapotraphouse members, lemmy.ml…they’re all bullshit. I’m convinced that they are entirely Russian trolls. There is no making them happy with slightly left of center. It seems they’ll never be happy until America has been destroyed. There is no point to placating them or even acknowledging their existence.

The “genocide Joe” moniker was particularly stupid. Do you really think Joe Biden was going to single handedly denounce Israel and kill off a key strategic alliance because of a few extremists? It is a completely silly notion.

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they’ll never be happy until America has been destroyed

it’s important to slap down the nonsense and call out the bullshit at every opportunity. they’re coming out of the woodwork to harass and manipulate everyone into second guessing themselves, for the sole purpose of getting trump into the white house.

fuck that shit.

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The problem is this isn’t true. I hate Biden but I despise the way Trump makes him look decent comparatively. How long can keep running slightly worse candidates compared to your previous one (hopefully Harris bucks this trend)?

People who call out Biden get called single issue voters; by people who’s only concern is Trump doesn’t get elected. They are ignoring absymal healthcare, terrible foreign policy, horrible housing prices, costly food bills, even the stable finicial sector is now losing jobs due to the AI craze.

I understand why people are worried about Trump. Still, we need candidates who actually want to run the country correctly and not just cater to the rich. We cannot sacrifice everything because the news makes Trump to be all powerful.

harass and manipulate everyone into second guessing themselves, for the sole purpose of getting trump into the white house.

You are gas lighting. We need to start caling this everytime we see it. Otherwise, you would bother people on Truth Social and Twitter (or even reddit which actually has a population that could matter in a national election) if you wanted people to stop voting for Trump. But that would make too much sense.

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Gaslighting? What?

You’re never going to get the perfect candidate until we reform elections (ranked choice, more parties, get rid of citizens united).

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When you say slightly left of center, to whom are you referring? Bernie wasn’t allowed to run for President.

Slapping a rainbow sticker on capitalism doesn’t make the Democrats leftists. We have two conservative parties in this country, just one that’s evolving into their final form (fascism). Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be voting for Harris in November and I’m ecstatic that Biden stepped aside. But if all the leftists online are “Russian bots”, than all you centrists are pro-capitalism LLMs. And we’ll be right back in the same position in four years.

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Leaving aside the actual political substance of your comment. Don’t you think it’s a bit… Head in the sand to assume anyone who disagrees with you is some “Russian troll”? I know we all exist in social media bubbles, myself included, but my social circles and my online circles all share “radical” concerns about the administration and country in general but it generally comes from a genuine desire for our politicians and therefore country to be and do better. We’re all Americans just like (I presume) you.

I joined lemmy.ml cause of the FOSS stuff but I’m learning it comes with a reputation I didn’t know about.

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In my childhood (in Russia) I’d talk this way about Russia. So they might be real.

I just (EDIT: later) realized later that many of the good things around me are too, well, not from Mars.

And that many of the bad things around me are absolutely not specific to Russia or ex-USSR.

And that one thing absolutely right is scolding all you don’t like and not bowing your head, because when you accept fools and their foolery because of some false “lesser evil”, you lose.

Not all of them are trolls. Shit, I’ve met tankies more libertarian that a lot of people “not interested in politics”, because the norm for that grey mass has shifted to a really dark place.

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