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He is now, but he was top tier famous for decades before politics. If you were actually intereseted in what is happening not just the propaganda, almost everything bad they say about trump is a direct lie or misleading. You just need to read past the headline to see its propaganda. Litearlly just dive down on any story.

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So, just to be clear, its everyone else in the world who’s wrong and susceptible to propaganda and your little cult whos correct?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure you’ve been groomed into knee-jerk dismissing anything bad anyone ever says about trump as propaganda, before you’ve even had a chance to consciously think about it. However, that’s not the same as your wild and baseless dismissals being the right thing to do. It just means that you have been conditioned to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears.

What makes you immune to this “propaganda” that all those who fall for it lack? Which bad bits are true then, if its only “nearly all of it” that’s wrong.

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I am not going to vote for trump, but no, everyone is susceptible to it, and some are more susceptible. The MAGA people also believe propaganda but its different types, they come from an experience of the government fucking them over for decades and want someone they believe will fight back.

I am more immune to propaganda based on being an former engineer that just looks at data to make my beliefs. The trick there is to actually look at correct data and not be influenced by headlines or misleading information. The big problem is that your group believes that the media will tell you the truth and will not lie to you. For example look back a month or so ago when they were all claiming Biden was “sharp” when that was obviously a lie to anyone who was skeptical. Anyone that was impartial could see that he wasnt fully functional anymore back in 2020.

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Okay, so, I’ll tryagain, what bad things that “they” say about Trump are true, if nearly all of it is lies?

People who don’t want to vote for trump have been fucked over for decades too. So, it can’t be that. If true, it must be something else.

You say that yet most data-driven white collar workers, like yourself, don’t vote for trump. So, that doesn’t make any sense. You’ve just presumed yourself to be superior and to know better than everyone else, despite the data.

In fact, its my own data driven career and analysis of the numbers and not the wild declarations of a 72 year old fellow that made me beleive what is said about trump and not the other way round.

Its bizzare that you focus of the grain of sand that is Biden maybe, possibly, somewhere, sometime, being called the very unquantifiable and relative term of “sharpe” and not the metric fuck tonnes of lies told in favour of trump that are believed without question by his cult. Even stranger still is that you expect the other side to play with a completely, 100% straight bat when their opponent has literally tried to overthrow Americam democracy and doesn’t care if their guy is a racist paedophile rapist wholl tell every lie under the sun if they think it will help them. I’m not even saying that he 100% is or isn’t. I’m saying they wouldn’t care and would follow him anyway.

That’s what falling for propaganda and being cult-like looks like.

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