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No. We are considering multiple challenges at the same time.

His decision here does help unite the democrats and brings hope to the younger generations. But, this decision also does not absolve him of his war crimes. Both can be true.

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He is stepping aside and letting his VP, who has very notably not supported Israel, take the lead. Can you shut your piehole for a second? You got what you wanted, “Genocide Joe” is no more.

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She’s light years better than Biden.

But she still takes AIPAC money, and spoke at their conference 7 years ago after they helped get her senate seat

https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/362782/kamala-harris-gaza-israel-palestine-biden-netanyahu

But we literally just saw public criticism work, why are you so quick to say we have to stop?

We can’t just show up once every four years and vote. We need constant pressure on politicians for them to do the right thing

Because there’s constant pressure on them to do the wrong thing, and that almost always comes with “donations”.

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Stop.

She hasn’t been afforded the chance in the current context to actually express her true stance. I expect it to be much more tepid towards Israel than Biden’s, but at the same time, we are trying to prevent a fascist takeover here, and it is a very fucking bad idea to piss off AIPAC in that context, as infuriating as that is to admit. She’s got to walk a tightrope to win back Arab-Americans that Biden foolishly pushed away, but at the same time can’t afford to have AIPAC putting all hands on deck to try to kill her campaign.

TL;DR: foreign influence organizations both covert and overt - including, but not limited to, AIPAC - need to be cracked down on aggressively, but I really don’t see that happening until after the election at the very least. And even then, the odds are low, because they’ll all just bribe tons of politicians and offer quid pro quos lobby against any such laws. Its a huge problem and it’s proven to be infuriatingly intractable for AGES.

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if your goal is a world where no one ever says anything good about biden, ever, then you’re in for a disappointing life.

also, if you think the united states will ever stop sending money and weapons to israel due to many many economic, geopolitical and military strategic factors–same thing, get ready for sadpepe.gif for the rest of your days.

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Oh God. You’re right. I better vote for someone who’s going to make the genocide stop by nuking them. After all, if we just completely eradicate them, then there’s no more genocide.

Right? That’s the answer you’re looking for?

Right?

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He is?? Well, I’m not voting for him or his son, then!

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I guess I’ll just have to vote for Harris instead then 🤷‍♂️

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Maybe vote for the felon because the genocide did not happen on his watch, so he is free of all blame.

/S

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And your not? Yout stopped paying your taxes right because it is genocide. I mean your not just supporting it out of a little inconvenience that might happen in your life right?

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bidens realtion to the actions to israel is equivalent to the voter/taxpayers relation to biden. both are bound in relationships that limit the actions they can take. Im fine with hey he could limit more of what we do in relation to what he has to do via congress but the whole supporting genocide thing then its like well then so are you and all the west by and large. you can’t make one indirect thing as being the thing and not ignore the other indirects along the line and say oh well thats to indirect.

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Do you actually care about the genocide in any actionable way besides yelling at people online?

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No one fucking forgot we just dont want the guy who says he’s going to accelerate the genocide to get in and with someone fresh it will be easier to pressure them to end our material support for the attrocities.

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