cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28401341

The U.S. government began investigating China’s dominance in the shipbuilding industry, where it manufactures as much as 75%-80% of fleets, during the Biden administration.

Steep levies on Chinese-made ships arriving at U.S. ports have been proposed, up to as much as $1.5 million, as part of a plan to bring more ship manufacturing back to the U.S., a policy which has bipartisan support.

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will Americans stop him before he starts more wars?

A really good question. Politically it seems like it’s not going to happen, but I still have (at least naive) hope that the actual US mlitary would not respond on commands should the cheeto order active military operations against China. That would make absolutely no sense in so many ways, no matter how you spin it around, that I’d expect the boots on the ground would just say ‘fuck off’.

But I also tought that the orange clown wouldn’t have a chance on elections either, so we’ll see. And also, I’m across the pond from US, so my information is mostly from European media outlets and social media around here, so take that with suitable grain of salt. I just rather not see the reality where US is fighting China and Europe is left to deal with Russia. Not because we couldn’t handle that, but because that would be just bat shit crazy situation in my lifetime.

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Assuming that others are acting rational is sadly often a bad idea. It extents to some governments too, the USA are now like Russia in this regard.

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You are of course not wrong with that. But also I tend to believe that high ranking military personnel are pretty practical and rational on their decision making. Getting US military boots on the ground in China would be bigger than Vietnam war scale of operations even to the US army and it would have immense effects on both US army and the country as a whole. The operation would practically mean moving a smaller European country quite literally across the ocean even without any warfare and when the receiving coast is armed to teeth and willing to fight for their land it’s way more difficult.

And for what? Absolutely destroying on whatever respect and trust is left globally? Because there’s no way in hell US army would conquer and keep the whole China. Maybe expand Hong Kong or Taiwan a bit and gain a relatively small area of land for material imports? It just doesn’t make any kind of sense at all.

9/11 retaliaton at least made some sense as US was willing to punish someone for the tradegy and Iraq wars had resources they could actually hold and gain from but with China there’s just no way for US to make any profitable scenario out of open warfare. Anything they might gain from that would be diminishingly small compared to the military effort and expenses they would need to get anything out of that fight.

And that’s what I’m pretty much counting on. No matter how patriotic the generals might be, attacking China just doesn’t make any sense and it doesn’t have any arguments for it beyond the rambling of a demented leader they have. I refuse to believe that the biggest military and logistics might in the world would do that stupid things just because one man said so.

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You assume the generals would disobey? What if he just replaces them? Why shouldn’t he, if they really do that? Russia has some smarter generals, they attacked Ukraine.

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Trumo and Putin be “special operations” butt buddies, their nightly wet dream.

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What the US always does, is have the cia/nsa blow something important up, then blame it on someone (China, in this case). All of a sudden the country is ready to go to war with China.

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Didn’t he already fire the military judges that could overrule his orders?

Orange freak is counting on never stepping down.

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