Comment by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on The Republicans Should've Faced Way More Criticism During The 2024 Presidential Campaign

6 months in and Liberals are still trying to blame their election loss on the left.

Ja, this meme is tripe. Tankies are the Lemmy bogeyman, used the same as ‘woke’ by the right.

What are you talking about? It only mentions democrats, republicans, and tankies.

Tankie is what centrist liberals call everyone to the left of them

No, that’s what I call people who claim to be left but then make excuses for Russia, China.

What do you call people who claim to be to the left but make excuses for Canada and the genocidal Democratic Party?

I’ve never been called a tankie, and neither have any of my friends or girlfriends. And we’re all communists.

Maybe you’re being called a tankie because you’re a radical centrist.

.world definitely has a problem distinguishing between Tankies and leftists. I’ve literally had a guy argue with me that tankie and Bernie Bro were interchangeable because, “definitions change.”

Well I love Bernie. When he told me he wasn’t running in 2024, and he wanted me to support Kamala, I listened. And I’ve never been called a tankie. Maybe it comes down to individual differences.

I also voted for Kamala and I also haven’t been called a tankie (at least yet). But I’ve seen multiple liberals on .world call leftists tankies, often without understanding the meaning. At first, I found it very strange, since I’d only ever seen that term used in leftist circles. It made more sense when I realized they picked it up from .ml, which, to be fair, had a lot of fucking tankies.

You’re a tankie, you voted for someone who sent tanks to a genocidal regime, that makes you a tankie.

Now you can’t say you’ve never been called a tankie.

I was once called a tankie just for critiquing the fact that Kamala didn’t clearify her positions on her campaign website, even though I voted for her anyway the fact that I didn’t show unquestioning loyalty to the party makes me a tankie… Wait a minute… Demanding unquestioning loyalty to the party… Where have I heard that before?

Yeah but caring about that apparently makes me a “single issue voter” and a “tankie”, liberals are absolute jokes

Don’t you, like, run a hate community targeted at her?

No, I run a left wing community thats explicitly left wing in nature. Liberalism is right wing, so naturally we arent supportive. Furthermore my community tends to lean more libertarian left (workers democracy) and anarchist so we arent a big fan of liberal electoralism.

I’ve never been called a tankie

we’re all communists.

I’ve got bad news for you…

Isnt radical centrist an oxymoron?

Yeah, supporting workers and dictators at the same time is pretty oxymoronic. But it’s perfectly balanced, as all things should be

I don’t think you know what communism actually is.

That’s because nobody is called “tankie” in real life. No one has called me a “tankie” either. The term’s contemporary usage is a creature of social media. It’s a dumb, cringey online meme.

Hmmmmmmmmmm… nah. It’s from the 1950s. They didn’t have 9gag back then

Again:

The term’s contemporary usage

But also: JFK Files Reveal CIA Role in the 1956 Hungarian Uprising | The tankies were right

The Hungarian Freedom Fighters were [Central Intelligence] Agency sponsored.

Ninety million people didn’t vote. Three million voted third party.

What was the difference Trump won by again?

The arrogance of assuming that anyone who didn’t vote or who voted third party, just automatically owe your party their vote.

The entrenched two-party system has done more to cripple democracy in America than any other factor, and yet it’s so pervasive that y’all whip each other into line trying to shame anyone who tries to break free of it.

I guess we’re all better off now having learned a valuable lesson, aren’t we? So… How exactly would you like your ‘thank you’ presented?

Arrogance indeed.

The only way the dems could have won in 2024 is if they did what is popular with their base. This applies to literally every election. You should be furious that they lost to Donald fucking Trump twice because they thought they could win while enacting policies they knew would decrease turnout.

They have their own polling, they know there’s not a bunch of voters who just hate tiktok and will vote for tax credits to buy healthcare for first-generation college grads who run a small business in an under-served community for 3 years, but won’t vote for free healthcare.

No messaging could have made genocide in gaza popular, it’s not the people telling the democrats to stop giving Israel fucking bombs who made facilitating genocide unpopular. The only people who could have changed whether Palestine hurt the dems or helped them were the dems. They decided unlimited support for a genocidal settler colonial state was more important than winning.

Well it’s a good thing we dodged that bullet, isn’t it?

And yeah, I’m furious that ninety three million people were told what was going to happen and chose to not vote anyway.

Unpopular policy decreases turnout. That’s just how democracy works. The narrative of blaming the voters just serves to distract from the only people who could have changed the outcome of the last election and will be the only ones who can change the outcome of future lessons.

If Trump runs for a third term, and the democrats run on building the wall and defunding the government, the same fucking thing will happen.

Again, you keep talking about how bad Kamala is, and side-step the disaster that we currently live under.

But whatever helps you cope, right?

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