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Matter over Thread is generally what you should look for. Local control is always possible, and it’ll work with any major ecosystem.

You do need a “Thread Border Router”, which you likely already own. If you’re tech inclined, Home Assistant is amazing, though it takes some tinkering.

Echo (4th Gen)  
Echo Show 8 (3rd Gen)  
Echo Hub  
Echo Studio  
Echo Studio (2nd Gen)  
Echo Plus (2nd Gen)  
Echo Show 10 (3rd Gen)  
Eero Beacon  
Eero Pro  
Eero 6  
Eero 6+  
Eero Pro 6  
Eero Pro 6E  
Eero PoE 6  
Eero PoE Gateway  
Eero Max 7  

Apple TV 4K (2nd generation)  
Apple TV 4K Wi-Fi+Ethernet (3rd generation)  
HomePod (2nd generation)  
HomePod mini  

Nest Hub (2nd generation)  
Nest Hub Max  
Nest Wifi Pro  
Nest Wifi  

SmartThings Hub (v3)  
SmartThings Station  
Aeotec Smart Home Hub  
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Amazon…google…apple…yeah none of these routers are going in my house.

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Sad how far they’ve fallen. I used to think new tech was cool. Now it’s depressing.

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My concern is, those are microphones that listen if you criticize Our Great Leader.

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