German media outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung, WDR, and NDR also cite the report, noting that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears intent on testing NATO’s Article 5 guarantees. The alliance’s mutual defence clause obliges member states to come to one another’s aid if attacked. The assessment suggests Putin may seek to challenge how seriously that commitment would be honoured.

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But with Trump on his side, he might make some progress.

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Trump might be an idiot, but he is not so much of an idiot to take on the entirety of Europe, who, likely when this happens will have new allies besides the US

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Trump might be an idiot, but he is not so much of an idiot to take on the entirety of Europe

I don’t think he’ll have to. With Europe busy infighting and a war on the eastern border, he can snack up Greenland just as he’s planning to. Nobody will do anything about it at that point.

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I don’t think you understand that trump is not only dumb he is also a russian asset. Sure actual evidence is shaky but when there is someone squatting with their pants down, only an completely insane person would claim they are in the process of laying chicken eggs.

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A war between the US and Europe would drag in the rest of the world, nowadays that would end in planetary annihilation

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I don’t know… These last few years have led me to never underestimate stupidity. Not that I think this would happen, because I don’t think Americans would allow that.

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I don’t think Americans would allow that.

What would they do to stop it?

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Would he be doing that if he attempts to take Greenland?

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I’m sure Trump would do what he is doing with Ukraine now, and what America has done in the past. Provide assistance for a massive cost.

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Trump will do anything in the safety of his home if he feels like it benefits him. If it has no negative impact for him, he doesn’t care. That’s why he could start a war with anyone, because he wouldn’t go to the front.

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I absolutely believe he’s that much of an idiot.

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There’s a chance Trump’s successor as fuhrer will be more directly militaristic, but only a chance. Most likely, Putin is still expecting Europe to fold and submit this time he escalates. Probably because he’s misread the complacency of the West over the past two decades as a weakness of personality.

likely when this happens will have new allies besides the US

Who are you thinking of? Canada’s a “shoe in” if you’ll take us, of course, but anyone else?

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we may actually see a change in status-quo when it comes to china, it is also possible that europe starts warming up more to india, indonesia, brazil and other lesser powers are relations with the US deteriorates, these are the ones i would put my money on when it comes to new allies

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Isn’t Europes combined military budget halfway to the moon at this point? Last I heard 180 billion and climbing not including induvidual countries efforts. Missread is a bit of an understatement.

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Trump might be an idiot, but he is not so much of an idiot

I’m gonna stop you right there. Every time we underestimate Trump he shows there is no low and/or stupidity he won’t sink to. He’s credibly accused of being a Russian asset and has done everything Putin could have possibly wanted in terms of weakening western power and alliances. In like 3 months. Do I think he’ll attack the UK or something? No. But he may very well do everything possible to help Russia, including giving them weapons and hurting their enemies…

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