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Think about all the capitalist profit businesses make for common cold symptoms alone, with over the counter meds and stuff.

No way something like this would be allowed in our current society.

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Just an interesting thing to share… I lived in the US until I was 40 and moved to Norway. They just don’t sell “cold remedy” meds here, or at least not even close to the extent the US does. We have sore throat drops, and OTC pain relief. Some cough medicine but it’s pretty weak imo. I suspect this is because the expectation here is that if you’re sick, you take sick time off work. You can rest and recover. Going to the doc to get sick time approved is at most like $20 and if you and your doc have a good relationship, you can do this via email. In the US, you’re expected to power through unless contagious and even then, just try to pretend you’re okay.

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What you’re saying hits home.

Conservatives have this tough guy routine, that going to work when you’re sick is just manly or “alpha”. It’s bullshit. Then they spread it so everyone else can get it.

But the tough thing to do, is go to work, after pumping yourself full of nyquil, or Tylenol, or whatever. It’s just so stupid and obvious. They’re so “tough” yet they need all this OTC junk to ease the symptoms. Not to mention, not being productive at work, cause you feel like shit. As well as taking longer to get better.

Personally, I prefer not to take any meds at all. Just go home, sleep a lot, drink water, eat soup, chill, rest, etc.

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I just got over being sick for 2 weeks and even though I was lucky enough to have that much sick time, I absolutely wanted the strongest meds I could get because I was miserable.

you’re expected to power through unless contagious

No, you’re expected to power through and they don’t give a fuck whether you’re contagious or not.

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dextrotomorphan, is the cough medicine, i find it has little effect on coughs. i believes its the 1st generations(diphenhydramine, doxylamine,bropheneramine,etc) anti-histamine that is preventing the smptoms, because also prevents mucus production via anti-cholingernic effects and the cough, besides the fever.

and pehnyleprine has no effect on you what so ever, you need the pseudoephedrine, but its regulated in the usa, and only available at the pharmacy counter, because Pseudoephedrine is used to make METH. dextromorphan is also recently been regulated, requiring ID, because stupid young children teens, are robotripping on it apparently.

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However, I’d expect businesses would also want to reduce cold and covid’s impact on employee productivity? Wouldn’t fewer employees needing to take sick time because of cold/covid increase their profits? Outside of businesses that profit from cold/covid, I don’t see what the motivation for businesses would be against this vaccination.

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Agreed, but you could spin it a number of ways. The “tough guy work ethic” cultural propaganda is to just go to work when sick. The fact that your not as productive when you feel shitty, well, the owners would have to actually care. Their argument is they’d probably prefer a sick employee only working at 70% their normal productivity, is better than letting them stay home.

The other much bigger thing is, how much money is over the counter meds industry profiting? Do they have lawyers and lobbyists? Is this profit entrenched in Wall Street investors and quarterly profits?

Which wins? Altruism for the worker bee, or rich peoples money and power?

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But does that outweigh the amount of days lost from people taking sick days?

Oh sorry America. The civilised world would be making that calculation though.

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Vaccine tourism will become a thing.

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Knowing the current administration, it will end up just like abortion tourism… but instead of only being persecuted in red states, it will be federally outlawed.

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medical tourism to places like india, thailand,etc for dental and medical treatment.

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No FDA means no one to stop it! 😂

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is far to powerful to throw completely away.

They could do the same with DoE and it isn’t saving that agency. There’s no particular reason the FDA would fare any better. They’ll strip it to the bone and some states will cheerfully make it completely legal for their citizens.

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They’ll start giving returning Americans titer tests and locking up people with immunity up

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To my knowledge, there is nothing indicating this is the plan at this time.

And I sincerely doubt we’ll “ever” have that policy. Because the people most likely to go on leisure (or even work) international trips are generally middle/upper middle class who need to be kept placated to make sure they still post memes on reddit but secretly cheer that the fbi is going to protect their teslas.

Whether other countries are going to block our access is a different conversation but is also unlikely.

That said: Anyone who CAN get out should work on getting out.

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We’ve got a lot of Americans who want everything tested for 20 years to make sure your eyes don’t fall out after a decade.

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