I’ve literally never had an issue and I’ve never heard of that being an issue. Do you not look at the road when you’re driving or something?
Can anyone provide anything that says this is a real concern…? Because people keep saying it, and no one wants to prove it. So strange… should be easy, no? So why can’t anyone do it?
Further, large trucks and SUVs are involved in more pedestrian accidents (and are more lethal in those accidents) than cars.
I’ve literally never had an issue and I’ve never heard of that being an issue
Well fuck me dead, that’s a shocking plot twist. The guy who responds to every comment with “spoonfeed me this widely available information” hasn’t heard of something.
Do you not look at the road when you’re driving or something?
It’s basic geometry, which was apparently too much to ask of you. Maybe we should have started at “object permanence” and established that things continue existing, even when your vision of them is blocked.
Can anyone provide anything that says this is a real concern…? Because people keep saying it, and no one wants to prove it. So strange… should be easy, no? So why can’t anyone do it?
Most people probably just assumed you were aware of this extremely common knowledge and that if you weren’t, you were capable of being a big brave boy and typing “pickup truck blind spot” into a search engine by yourself.
But nope, you’d rather accidentally admit that you don’t know basic safety information about your own car.
Well fuck me dead, that’s a shocking plot twist. The guy who responds to every comment with “spoonfeed me this widely available information” hasn’t heard of something.
Like everyone else not understanding that using red lights inside of urban areas cause most of these issues? And this issue only exists in the US…? And not anywhere else?
I love how all the data is from the US, it’s literally not an issue anywhere else… fucking lmfao. Don’t provide your local data in a global conversation, why do you think that’s important…??
Oh look, the goalposts have moved again and apparently outside the US, people in giant trucks have xray vision that let’s them see through solid metal.
I’m not engaging any further. You’re a fucking idiot, driving around in a fucking idiot’s car, and you’ve already done more than I ever could to prove it.
Here you go bud.
Latest data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration shows that in 2020 there were over 500 deaths and more than 10,000 “frontover” injuries due to forward-moving vehicles. A frontover injury happens when a vehicle moving forward runs over a person because of not seeing them, usually due to a blind spot.
And a disproportionate number of frontover victims are children, as these accidents mostly take place in driveways and parking lots. According to Kids and Cars, about 81% of victims are 6 years and under.
Got anything from anywhere other than the US where this problem solely exists…? Because your local stats mean nothing in a global conversation.
this isn’t a global conversation? At least right now it isn’t this is entirely localized to the US because the US has the most of these large vehicles lmao
Sure thing bud. Also, how far are you going to move the goalposts?
The bottom line? These vehicles are not fit for European cities.
They are dangerous for several reasons, namely because their front ends are frequently higher than the average height of young children, making it difficult for drivers to spot some of the most vulnerable road users. Moreover, pick-up trucks such as these are more difficult to manoeuvre than standard vehicles, a challenge only made worse by the size of many European city streets.
Therefore, it should hardly come as a surprise that these vehicles have been shown to kill and injure road users more frequently than ordinary automobiles when they get into collisions. According to Pedro Homem Gouveia, Coordinator of POLIS WG on Safety & Security, it would be more fitting to call vehicles of this dimension “dangerous road users.”
Can anyone provide anything that says this is a real concern…? Because people keep saying it, and no one wants to prove it. So strange… should be easy, no? So why can’t anyone do it?
the likelihood of large trucks hitting pedestrians is substantially higher, and the likelihood of those impacts being deadly is even higher than that.
Even ignoring statistics here, basic static analysis of the factors at play would argue that there should be an expected increase in these stats. For one thing you have significantly less immediate LOS meaning it’s not incredibly apparent what is directly in front of you which should make it quite obvious as to why they’re more dangerous, especially at lower speeds. You feel much safer in them due to their size, so you are more likely to be paying less attention or none at all, assuming that other people will notice your massive pavement princess coming down the road.
The front of the vehicle is a literal wall, so the chance that you impact someone, and drag them across the road for a significant distance, or even just run them over outright is significantly higher, because low hoodline vehicles often just throw people up on their hoods, an f150 is significantly less likely to do this, considering how much higher off the ground the hoodline is already, especially when you add in children. It also has considerably more mass, meaning it’s going to impart significantly more energy into a pedestrian, even at low speeds. A lot of these trucks are also lifted and stanced (or as i liked to refer to them “tonked” because they look like tonka trucks) which means if you do impact a pedestrian, you’re likely to stuff them straight into your front suspension and driveline, which is sure to cause all kinds of fun problems.
So why are rates only going up in the US…? Other places have these same trucks and don’t have the same issues.
I appreciate you not providing sources from outside the US to support it’s not a US only problem. Every article people provide is about the US, other places have these trucks, why don’t they have the same issues?
Why in this so hard for you guys to find? And why is every answer skirting around the actual question? Lmfao.
probably a combination of the fact that there are substantially more trucks in the US compared to places in the EU for example where the statistics are probably significantly closer to “margin of error” levels of accuracy.
The US also has substantially more people driving, substantially more road, substantially less skilled drivers one could argue, though i would argue we have a much wider range of skilled drivers, than somewhere like germany for example, where they have a might tighter though higher sitting range of skilled drivers.
edit: a lot of these trucks outside the US are likely to be work vehicles exclusively i imagine, where as in the US they’re primarily work and personal, though i sure do see a lot more personal trucks on the road than i do work trucks on the road.
In short, other places don’t have these issues because other places simply have a lot less vehicles, and a lot less traffic, as well as a lot less of these trucks per capita compared to the US which is just statistically what you expect to see in the results.
Dangerous vehicles are really only dangerous when in large numbers because otherwise they are quite literally a statistical anomaly. It’s why old vehicles are still allowed on the road in the US even though they’re less safe, there just isn’t enough of them for it to be statistically significant.
