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-2 points

4 months ago

“what he’s done is not the point”

Yes, it is the point. The very fact you don’t understand that is the problem

Biden is an old man and fumbled his words, it has no bearing on the legislation he’s produced during his first term at a rapid pace for progressive policies.

His consistently progressive presidential policies and tangible results are what matters

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qevlarr@lemmy.world

4 points

4 months ago

If he loses November he can’t deliver any of those tangible results. Of course policy matters, but getting elected is important too.

Elections are won on getting people to turn up and vote for you, simple as. If independents stay home because they can’t bring themselves to vote for an 81 year old showing signs of dementia, he’s gonna lose.

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-2 points

4 months ago

Independents are independents because they care about the issues, they’re not going to be as confused as many are by discerning YouTube clips vs. active achieved Biden legislation.

Biden has consistently proved himself by achieving legislation Americans care about.

What you’re talking about are party voters who watch 5 second clips on YouTube and believe conglomerate groupthink headlines.

By and large, they are going to vote for the party they’ve adhered to.

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qevlarr@lemmy.world

4 points

4 months ago

Stop telling other voters what they should consider important. There are many people out there who will base their vote on what they see in the news, whether you like it or not. It sucks that Trump gets a pass from his base for things that Biden’s base won’t accept from him. It sucks that Biden is not as charismatic (anymore, if you thought him charismatic before) as Trump is to his base. It sucks that millions and millions of voters don’t know shit about policy and base their vote off of 5 second clips on repeat at Fox News. It sucks that both candidates are record settingly old, but only Biden gets flak for it.

But that’s how it is. You can’t tell people who to vote for or what’s important.

Welcome to politics, bud.

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-1 points

4 months ago

“Stop telling other voters what they should consider important”

You’re trying to tell people right now that what’s important in a president is image instead of achieved and stated policy.

That is incorrect.

Throw all the tantrums you want, but people are going to vote how they want to vote, not how you personally want them to vote.

Let them make that decision on substance rather than confetti.

Biden has achieved great results for civil rights, critical infrastructure, green, sustainable technology, climate change in general, student debt, immigration, and the list goes on.

If you personally want to focus on YouTube clips, that’s your jam.

But everyone who is still making up their mind should be looking at policy, because that’s what matters when you elect a president.

Voters should be basing their votes on the best candidates to achieve their desired legislative policies.

If you are left-leaning, Biden has achieved a laudable, astonishing amount of progressive legislation in his first term.

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qevlarr@lemmy.world

3 points

4 months ago

I’m literally not. I’m describing to you that voters can be like that, and you keep repeating those voters are wrong and they “should” base their vote on policy instead. I’m not “personally focused” on YouTube clips, just telling you many voters can’t ignore those public appearances where Biden comes off as incredibly old - which he is! - and that the debate was such a disaster because it made it impossible to shrug off Trump’s main attack line against Biden any longer. Keep telling voters they’re wrong voting the way they do and you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. And setting the country on the road to fascism again.

If Trump wins, I’m blaming the Democratic Party establishment for their complacency, their gerontocracy, wasting the youth vote potential by supporting Israeli atrocities, and not following through on increasing the minimum wage if you want to focus on policy. Policy isn’t everything. We all know most of Biden’s policies are popular, but if they can’t convert that into votes, they’re still going to lose. This time, they can’t say they didn’t see it coming.

I’m kinda done now, it’s like talking to a brick wall. Biden is polling terribly and blaming voters they should look at policy and overlook Biden’s mental decline isn’t going to change that.

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-1 points

4 months ago

If trump wins, you should be looking in the mirror for trying to convince people that fanfare and imagery is what they should be voting on rather than a good president.

One old guy, whose age has not stopped him achieving landmark progressive legislation for 4 years straight as president, being about 3 years older than the other old guy, is an impractical and irrelevant concern to the administration of the presidency and to this election.

You are arguing that we should focus on YouTube clips and public displays instead of policy and achievement.

You’re blaming other voters for your anxieties. Those are your issues.

Your irrelevant name calling and ignoring the actual candidacy in favor of irrelevant headlines is what’s helping your maga friends, not a good President determined to be reelected who’s been working fine for 4 years.

You can write biden a letter asking him to practice his somersaults, but that is as irrelevant to him continuing to be a good president as your other complaints.

This is an election. It doesn’t matter how much you stamp your feet about your own anxieties, people get to vote for who they want to vote for and whoever you want will win or lose according to the results.

Let the voters decide who they want to vote for based on substance, not your confetti.

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