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31 points

This is insane pressure on Biden to step down. I hope it gets through to him. I dread to think of what happens with such division in the party going into the nomination process.

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Depends:

  • Biden on the ballot? We have a chance, albeit slim thanks to all the hand-wringing making people stay home (remember, that’s what the cons want)

  • Biden off the ballot? FAILED EVERY OTHER TIME, SO WHAT’RE WE THINKING?!?

Perfect doesn’t exist except in the doubts of Good Enough.

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idk if you’ve been following the Republican convention, but needless to say, they appear to be very…

“energized”

The democrats need a massive shot in the arm to even have a shot at this point, replacing Biden or naught. The assassination attempt provided a kind of rallying cry for MAGA/ Trumpers that polling won’t capture. Polling is good at capturing the distribution of demographics, but what it misses is how “activated” those demographics are. And boy-howdy, do Trumps key demographics seem activated. Possibly the most activated they’ve ever been, maybe even more-so than post 2020/J6.

If things don’t change massively, and even then, its a super difficult path for Democrats to come back from the situation that Blue MAGA has set up.

Maybe the AOC/ Bernie triangulation is setting up for throwing AOC onto the platform?

Harris/ AOC and the entire platform is: Women liberty and freedom of choice is our focus. If you elect us, our entire focus will be a constitutional amendment supporting a woman’s right to choose. Harris can activate the African American community. Women & the African American community to get NC & GA (maybe?). Let Harris or AOC put out better rhetoric on Gaza and WI/ MI/ MN can be back in play?

Like they’ve got to activate a/ any demographic and make this campaign about SOMETHING, because right now, it looks like the Democrats are stumbling into something similar to this:

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Harris can activate the African American community.

Lolwat

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There have been some signficant and I think legitimate concerns that if any one but Harris replaces Biden, African Americans, specificially African American women will see this her VP pick as having been purely performative, when its widely acknowledged that Africian American women, specifically, helped deliver Biden the white house.

I think its a legitimate concern and I have no problem with Harris as candidate. Literally any one has a better shot than Joe Biden at this point. Editorially, I think a double woman progressive ticket could be the thing that gets the car back on the road, but I truly do not give a shit. I don’t care if its Andy Beshear. Anyone and everyone would be doing better than Joe Biden is currently.

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-4 points

It’s her Stand

Biden has Blue MAGA and Harris has the African American Community

Once they activate their Stands it is over for whatever this guy is trying to sell

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-9 points

All of this!

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I would not call it “insane” pressure.

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Prominent sitting congressmembers publicly asking for the presumptive nominee and incumbent president to step down is… very outside of the norm. It is an incredible and unprecedented pressure.

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Insane pressure to me would be party leaders of House and Senate, former Presidents of the same party, united cabinet members or close family members simultaneously saying it is time to go. ☎️ My call is that Obama will have to be the bad guy on this one though.☎️

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The norm sucks. The fucking norm got us into this mess by discouraging people from primarying a sitting president. If we’d had a robust primary we’d either be fully on board with Biden or we’d have dropped him already.

Fuck norm. He was like the worst character on Cheers.

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sitting congressmembers publicly asking for the presumptive nominee and incumbent president to step down

Not enough hyperbole dude. I don’t have time to do the research, but its not clear to me that a situation where the incumbent president and presumptive nominee is being asked to step down by effectively ALL of the rest of party leadership, with only the fringe block (progressives) maintaining support.

I think i can recall a vaguely similar situation with maybe Grover Cleveland and the mugwumps? And iirc that was all about currency (gold vs silver vs fiat vs a historical aside: land based currency; worth reading on)…

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-48 points

How long until Blue MAGA starts calling Schiff a Russian bot? /s

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what the fuck is blue maga? that is the most propaganda ass name lmfao

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It sounds exactly like a “Hey, our MAGA people are insane and worship a really stupid guy for [reasons no rational person understands], so obviously they have a group of people who are equally insane!” when no one worships Biden; it’s just the alternative is too nuts to ever vote for.

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Its not a remotely new thing. Its been around since 2017.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/blue-maga

A 2020 primary meme describing it:

More recent examples are things like Whoopi saying she’d be voting for Joe Biden even if he was shitting his pants on stage. Or Joy Reid saying she’d vote for Biden if he was in a coma. If that resonates with you, you are probably blue maga.

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What is Blue MAGA? Joe Biden’s Vocally Online Defenders

https://www.newsweek.com/blue-maga-joe-biden-defense-debate-trump-1922193

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