Schiff Warned of Wipeout for Democrats if Biden Remains in Race(www.nytimes.com)

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theprogressivist @lemmy.world

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2 months ago

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xmunk@sh.itjust.works

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2 months ago

Buttigieg, Warren, Whitehouse… all would be far better picks for actually beating Trump.

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retrospectology@lemmy.world

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2 months ago

Harris. Harris. Harris. Har-ris. ~~Harris~~ Harris. Harris.

Did you get it that time? Do people need to repeat it for you again? How many times will it take for you to acknowledge that you know who the other option is?

Do people need to say it in an accent for you? Or maybe spell it out in binary code? What will it take?

Edit: Looks like not acknowledged then. Jesus christ, it really is like talking to MAGA.

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niucllos@lemm.ee

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2 months ago

I don’t know a single person IRL who likes Harris more than Biden, during the 2020 primaries Biden was the milquetoast, too old candidate and Harris was actively hated for her history as a prosecutor. My grandfather is the only person I know who thought Harris was a smart VP choice. Biden at least gets some of the centrists and disaffected Republicans while losing the progressives, as a black woman Harris loses most of those, the progressives don’t like her, my black friends don’t like her because of the aforementioned prosecutor role, I just don’t know who her support base is except for you. Her campaign didn’t even do well enough to make it to the primaries, let alone compete. Bernie or Harris? I can see. Kamala I can’t

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retrospectology@lemmy.world

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2 months ago

The polling says otherwise. Your anecdotal evidence doesn’t prove much.

Harris is polling better than Trump and Biden with independents, women and black voters, all the groups Biden is trying to get. Biden lost progressives because of his extreme stance on Gaza, which Harris distanced herself on.

Progressives are willing to compromise on Harris, no one is expecting Bernie Sanders to be the pick. Biden simply cannot win, he’s behind by multiple points in the majority of swing states and has made no attempts to moderate his dealings with the far-right Israeli government.

Harris is the only viable option that has a chance.

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niucllos@lemm.ee

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2 months ago

Does it really? I’ve seen one single poll, conducted by CNN just after the debate, with 1045 people reached by telephone that showed Harris doing 4% better with a 3.5% margin of error. The more recent polls I’ve seen that lead has disappeared again. If there are other polls, especially polls with better power, that prove your point I’d love to see them. I’m by no means a Biden fan, but I also don’t think Harris has a dependable edge.

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retrospectology@lemmy.world

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2 months ago

Yes, the results of the CNN poll have been born out by subsequent polling:

On Friday, an NPR/PBS News/Marist poll of 1,174 registered voters suggests Harris, considered the best-placed person to replace President Joe Biden as the Democrat’s 2024 nominee should he drop out of the race, would narrowly beat Trump in November’s election (50 percent to 49).

The poll was released one day after an ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll of 2,431 adults found that Harris would beat Trump by three points overall (49 percent to 46) and among registered voters (49 percent to 47).

[Source]

Vice President Kamala Harris could narrowly beat Donald Trump in November, according to a new national poll from a Democratic pollster.

Harris is ahead by 1 point in the poll by the firm Bendixen & Amandi Inc. She would edge out Trump 42%-41%. The survey showed 12% undecided and 3% support going to third-party candidates. It had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points. She’s within a percentage point of Trump in most polling, while Biden lags several points behind.

[Source]

Combined that with Biden already losing the majority of swing states by multiple points: [Source]

Now stop hiding behind your ignorance like it’s an argument and wasting everyone’s time. The data we do have shows Harris having a chance at least, Biden is sure loss, there’s literally no coherent argument againat replacing him when he is the single worst option.

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2 months ago

Literally anyone who wanted to run before? I happen to think Elizabeth Warren could have a shot if Biden weren’t in the picture.

I don’t need to get over myself I’m not running. I happen to think extremely lowly of myself tyvm. :P

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