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Dark Souls 2 is definitely better than the general consensus thinks.

This would be my rating of the souls games. Sekiro > DS1 > Bloodborne > DS2 > DeS > DS3 > Elden Ring

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Out of interest, why is 3 so low in your ranking?

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7 points

Level design and exploration is the weakest and the bosses start having the Elden Ring issue of damage sponges and animation manipulation, like heal counters and roll catches.

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For me a ds3 run just feels very quick and you cannot take as much optional and different routes as in the previous games, it’s more linear. But also ds3 bosses are peak, only topped by sekiro, and imo everyone crying about artificial difficulty (e.g. the guy above) has skill issues. Like, demons souls, ds1, ds2 (except the snowy outskirts, fuck that area) are pretty easy to beat in comparison.

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I agree on the ds3 bosses. They are phenomunal and the best in the souls movement set. Sekiro is tough to compare it to as that game just plays differently IMO.

I replay all dark souls games and even mods are enjoyable, but I don’t bother with other games. I started Bloodborne but it just doesn’t hold my interest anymore? I just really like dark souls universe I think.

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Wait why do people hate Elden ring? For context I’ve only played 3/4 of DS1 and 1/2 of DS2.

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Took everything good about souls games, copy pasted and spread it out so thin to cover an entire open world with no content. Destroying the pacing and exploration of a complex designed world in favour of a flat large plane of repeated enemies and the same dungeon over and over again.

I can go on.

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Took everything good about souls games, copy pasted

That’s true for all of the games on your list. These games are (and always have been) innovations on each other. The erd tree bosses are improved stray demons, which is an improved asylum demon, which are improved adjudicators. Even if they weren’t innovative, the new bosses and mechanics would still more than make up for it IMO.

and spread it out so thin to cover an entire open world … Destroying the pacing and exploration of a complex designed world

You never found any of the areas that take you off of Torrent and stop being open-world? They’re the same as all of the previous games, and there’s loads of them.

no content

Did you even make it out of the starting area??? Ever seen a minor erd tree? Or stop one of the roaming carriages with loot? You really didn’t find any of the puzzles? Paintings? Notes pointing to things to do? Never found any good loot tucked away in an obscure part of the map? Never found a notable place to get useful crafting materials? Never found the churches, golden seeds, or the physick flask? Never encountered a story invasion? Never encountered a boss roaming in the overworld? Never found an evergaol? You didn’t find any NPCs or try to do any quests/miniquests? Not even any merchants? Didn’t find any underground open-world areas? Didn’t touch any teleporters or dubious chests?

I can go on.

in favour of a flat large plane

Blatantly untrue when you leave the starting area and look literally anywhere.

repeated enemies and the same dungeon over and over again.

The only thing the caves and dungeons have in common are textures. Repeat bosses are definitely a thing though, but repeat enemies… I don’t see how that’s an issue. They’re used in different combinations and contexts that mix things up, and it’s no different than any of the other games on the list.

I never like to dismiss someone’s criticism of things because they’re generally subjective, but so much of what you said is questionable… if not just objectively wrong.

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I was going to ask why you think it got so much hype, but you’re basically describing why I hated BotW.

Did they not add other rpg exploration elements to the game to compensate?

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