The Democratic Socialists of America pulled its endorsement of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York this week, accusing the progressive congresswoman of being insufficiently supportive of the Palestinian cause and efforts to end the war in Gaza…

Her approach has increasingly strained her relationship with some of the left’s most strident critics of Israel. When she rallied last month in the Bronx with Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Jamaal Bowman, dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators angry over her endorsement of Mr. Biden chanted “You’re a fraud, A.O.C.”

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Politics shouldnt be a matter of picking a team/ idol and supporting them blindly.

If a politician you formerly supported does something stupid, like how both Bernie and AOC have done recently, you aren’t obligated to support them. You can and should rescind your support if they do something you disagree with. Both Bernie and AOC could be much much stronger on Gaza, and frankly, especially AOC has basically backstabbed/ abandoned the movement that got her into power. She’s got “star power” at this point, where “cheer leaders” are just going to support her regardless of her policies or effectiveness. Its sad, but its how modern politics works. You start on the outside, work your way in, and then abandon those who put you into power initially.

There is no way the squad gets elected without Our Revolution/ Justice Democrats/ DSA, then venn diagram of which is pretty fucking overlapping. All of the squad minus Omar and Ro Khanna basically stopped taking any calls from progressives once we put Biden in office in 2020.

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What you’re saying doesn’t reflect reality.

Sanders and AOC are incredibly active progressive politicians.

AOC just introduced articles of impeachment against supreme Court Justices.

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If you find yourself on the “right” side of the DCCC, you are my opponent.

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If you find yourself on the “right” side of the DCCC, you are my opponent.

Oh cool, we’re just going mask-off now, huh?

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Both Bernie and AOC could be much much stronger on Gaza, and frankly, especially AOC has basically backstabbed/ abandoned the movement that got her into power

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Cannot upvote these three dots enough.

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AOC and Bernie basically stopped going on progressive media post 2020.

Ro Khanna and Ilhan Omar still do. There is a wide chasm growing among progressives: Those who still need the grass roots and those who dont. Once AOC started playing ball (under Pelosi), she no longer had to be worried about getting primaried by the DCCC, which is the sword the DNC uses to kill grass-roots campaigns.

There has been a literal war against progressives within the DNC. AOC was neutered and is no longer a threat.

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Yawn

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You can and should rescind your support if they do something you disagree with

that is childish.

how many important questions are there to define your worldview?

  • do you support israel in the war? - yes/no
  • do you support abortion? - yes/no

there is about 8 billion people in the world right now.

log2(8billion) is roughly 32.9.

2 to the power of 33 is roughly 8.6 billion. that is 8.6 billion different combinations formed by these 33 binary questions.

that is for whole world; for usa with population of 350m the magic number is 29 questions (behold the power of exponential function 😆)

in other words - if there is more than 33 binary questions to define your approach to world - there is statistically not a single other person in the world that would share your worldview completely (that is as long as the various worldviews are distributed evenly, which is probably not the case, but lets simplify here).

that is why, if you want to find a common ground with someone, you sometimes have to compromise (as every person who has ever been married tells you).

otherwise you will just end up alone and that is not strong negotiating position to change the world.

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which is why losing the endorsement was the compromise within the DSA.

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