A BBC investigation reveals that Microsoft is permanently banning Palestinians in the U.S. and other countries who use Skype to call relatives in Gaza.

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You have to trust someone with these communications, there is no free communication beyond face to face

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Signal is right there.

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and Threema

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Threema is what signal should have been.

But I ain’t got in me to start forcing people again lol

Signal it is until it is proven untrustworthy

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Signal is centrally hosted thus it’s proverbial rug can be pulled.

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Wait until you find out about internet service providers

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Damn that’s bad, and Signal’s response was even worse. They knew about it in 2018, for 6 years.

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Wasn’t Elon Musk trying to push Telegram?

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They didn’t fuck up, they made a design choice about the scope of the app. Are they also fucking up by not blurring the messages on screen? After all someone could be looking over your shoulder without you realizing it. Maybe Signal should ship with spyglasses.

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trust yourself by hosting a matrix server

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How do you call a landline number in a war zone through a matrix server?

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I was simply responding to the comment:

You have to trust someone with these communications, there is no free communication beyond face to face

the oh-so-clever smart alecks saying “whaddabout ISPs???” forgot about 2-way radio and meshnets

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Unless you build your own, you have to trust your ISP to move packets, but you don’t have to rely on any third party services or give them your personal info to use social media.

Fully decentralized, open-source, and encrypted social networks exist. The only servers needed are your computer and the computers of the friends you communicate with. (See: Retroshare )

They’re just never going to get big because small, personal friend-to-friend networks can’t compete with the network effects of centralized media and a never-ending torrent of dopamine on tap.

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dead link?

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Whoops, somehow managed to typo it. Fixed now.

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From my comment above:

You’re assuming that people in Gaza have consistent access to the internet. The beauty of Skype is that you can call a landline through it.

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Not true at all lol, have you heard of peer-to-peer?

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Matrix (federated) or Briar (multi-modal P2P) are both good options for getting rid of dependency on central organizations.

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Still need an ISP. ISPs are pretty centralized and monolithic for lots of people.

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I’ll just build my own cell tower and become my own ISP, checkmate

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You’re assuming that people in Gaza have consistent access to the internet. The beauty of Skype is that you can call a landline through it.

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This is exactly what they want you to believe.

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This is what net neutrality and anti-trust laws are for.

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You can run your own infrastructure.

Matrix has been recommended, but you can run your own Synapse server and federate with other servers.

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