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You do realize replacing Biden post primary is by definition an act of disenfranchisement of the voters right? Literally tossing out all the votes.

This conversation is only happening because of how seriously everyone who wasn’t on the Biden Hate train already anyways actually recognizes how serious pulling that lever is, and are raising the question anyways because Biden’s recent flubs have spooked everyonethat much.

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You do realize replacing Biden post primary is by definition an act of disenfranchisement of the voters right? Literally tossing out all the votes.

While I don’t completely disagree with what you’re saying here, you are far overstating the nature of the primaries. By the time my state’s primary rolled around, every single candidate dropped out and endorsed Biden. It’s not really much of a vote if there is only one guy to vote for.

The primaries are dog shit and routinely fail to present candidates that accurately reflect the will of the people. People are now calling for Biden to drop out as a result of that.

I’m still voting for Biden for now, but this shit isn’t ever going to get better until we have elections that actually capture the will of the people.

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They’d represent the will of the people more if the people could be assed to fucking show up to any of them.

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That’s definitely a contributing factor, but not the only one. The use of FPTP voting, the spread of election days being based on which state you’re in, the inherent biases and control the establishment has over it all are IMO bigger factors.

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Biden’s recent flubs have spooked everyonethat much.

A lot of people have a short memory. Biden’s verbal gaffes were well-known during his time as Obama’s VP, not even mentioning before that. If anything, he’s gotten better at speaking.

People should be paying attention to his actions and accomplishments as President. We have the last four years to look at, and while his handling of Israel leaves a lot to be desired, he’s made great strides in the areas of workers rights, climate, student loans, and inflation.

Calling his latest gaffes anything new is just buying into propaganda. I have yet to see any legitimate criticism over his health or ability to run an administration.

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There’s gaffes and then there’s stumble mumbling your way through an entire debate.

It doesn’t matter if it’s all propoganda, if enough people bought it then we gotta move fast to patch the hole before the whole damn ship sinks.

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stumble mumbling your way through an entire debate

I think that’s an exaggeration. 85% of the time what he said was correct and made sense. He got flustered a few times and babbled. I ideally want a president that doesn’t do that very often, but I HATE the idea that if you misspeak then you’re incompetent. I can DO things much better than I can describe them.

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So spooked that you would let an authoritarian felon take office instead. Perfectly valid response.

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How the fuck is replacing the candidate that everyone’s still gonna vote for letting the authoritarian felon take office instead?

This isn’t a third party run, this isn’t punishment voting, this isn’t vote striking, this is replacing a candidate who’s performed poorly enough for members of his own party’s leadership to openly question his fitness.

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Right, and your focus on a pipe dream to have biden step down is really something more than a distraction from Trump and his end run for dictator.

I tell myself people like you are obviously bad actors because I cant believe any one could be so stupid to sow division this close to election day. You’re setting yourself and everyone else up for disappointment. People will walk away from the conference like they were entitled to Bernie or some shit but biden has already made his choice and short of a revelation the man won’t change his mind.

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