Seems like a lot of effort spent maligning a group of people to the left of the problem population.
If I were more conspiracy-minded, I’d say they were purposely being counterproductive and driving away the only people who could conceivably be converted to their cause.
In reality, some people are just assholes.
libs are not to the left of anything https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/
You’re quite literally arguing that liberalism isn’t liberalism because conservatism/neoliberalism exists.
That’s not how things work. It doesn’t matter whether there is something worse out there or not. Each ideology has to be judged on its own terms. What you’re suggesting is a logical fallacy.
First sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism :
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.
Second paragraph from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property :
Private property is foundational to capitalism, an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. As a legal concept, private property is defined and enforced by a country’s political system.
This is in stark contrast to the first sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism :
Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.
What you call “liberal” and what you call “conservative” are both liberal.
So is red lemmy just a porn instance like redtube or why pick red when you’re not even slightly left wing?
Liberalism, at its core, is an ideology of emancipation that historically sought to dismantle oppressive hierarchies and champion freedom and equality for all. In practice, it continues to challenge modern systems of oppression, such as capitalism and systemic inequality, that restrict freedom for the many while empowering the privileged few. Although the language of liberalism has been co-opted by capitalist ideologies to justify hierarchies of wealth and power, its true essence lies in prioritizing universal liberty and rejecting systems of exploitation. By aligning more closely with leftist principles, which work toward creating a more equitable and just society.
Nobody is free until everyone is.
