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2 days ago

They’ve never not been paid, doing otherwise is fraud even for the government.

And no, that’s not slavery. Slavery is a forced servitude, you’re not a slave because your mom asked you to take out the trash for “$20 next week if finances work out”.

Not the everything is literally slavery or literally Hitler no matter how hard you wring your hands and stir the pot.

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Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP

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0 points

2 days ago

Do you know what happens when you live paycheck-to-paycheck, like the vast majority of Americans, and they stop paying you for a while? Do you know what happens to children in those situations?

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1 point

2 days ago

Opm holds 90 days in reserve, appropriations usually issues another 90 if needed, add another 90 days by zero interest loan and you have pay for approximately 270 days.

Currently opm projects no non payment, stop doomsaying when this happens periodically like clockwork.

Ed: also distinctly different from slavery given the voluntary nature of employment. It’s bad, it isn’t however “literally slavery” no matter how hard you clutch your pearls.

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Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP

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2 days ago

I literally quoted you a news article that says that they will work without pay in the event of a shutdown. Why are you pretending the opposite is true?

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-affect-air-travel/

1 point

2 days ago

The TSA who say that literally Everytime? The TSA that doesn’t control their own payroll? That one?

2018

Most TSA workers, about 95%, are considered essential, and would therefore remain on the job in the event of a shutdown — but without pay — TSA administrator David Pekoske said in a post on X.

Guess how many did not get paid.

2013

https://www.dhs.gov/archive/news/2015/02/25/tsa-workers-deserve-more-iou

A shutdown for the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) means that most of our employees would still continue to come to work, without receiving a paycheck for that work until the shutdown ends.

Guess how many did not get paid.

A baited hook does not necessitate a bite, sometimes people just say shut to scare you and this is one of those times.

Notably, I can’t help but notice you aren’t calling it slavery anymore. Have we backed away from that ill thought out and obscenely offensive analogy?

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Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP

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0 points

2 days ago

Guess how many did not get paid.

Since you didn’t provide any sources for whether or not they did get paid after that or how long it took, I have no idea.

Notably, I can’t help but notice you aren’t calling it slavery anymore. Have we backed away from that ill thought out and obscenely offensive analogy?

I called it slavery a couple of comments ago. Am I supposed to use the word in every comment?

It feels like you’re just trolling now. Especially that last part.

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https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/furlough-guidance/unemployment-compensation-for-federal-employees-fact-sheet-december-2018.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiF0bb1z7eKAxUVv4kEHXluBB8QFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Xze9BbLSxX50O68D3vREe

1 point

2 days ago

They all get paid, they just might not be paid on time which is not in fact slavery.

That would be the point in guessing or better yet finding out on your own that they in fact did get paid because not paying people is fraud. Some agencies used their budget surplus to keep paying employees others like the TSA who are poorly managed so far as I’m aware have not.

If that’s your decision, it’s not one I would make though.

Everything you could really want to know about how shutdown pay works is in this PDF by the OPM.

No, I’m trying to get you to accept calling inconvenience slavery is a bit too far.

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