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Undocumented Chinese men are alarmed by Trump’s plan to prioritize their deportation, citing baseless national security concerns about “military-age” immigrants.

Many fled political persecution or economic hardship and reject claims of being a threat.

Legal experts warn of racial profiling and expanded ICE raids, urging immigrants to know their rights. Deportation fears grow as China cooperates in repatriation efforts.

Chinese immigrants express anxiety over family separations and harsh consequences if returned, emphasizing they seek safety and stability, not harm.

Critics call Trump’s policies cruel and unjustified.

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Traditionally racism that is based on statistics and aggregate numbers still counts. If someone were to say that black people are on average responsible for [insert problem here], even if it were true, that’s generally considered racist.

And, that’s a bit silly. I can call someone doing racist black caricatures racist against black people without knowing if some particular country’s population is generally considered to be black.

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Traditionally based on what? What tradition is this? Who made it a tradition?

And if you can’t determine the criteria for whiteness, how can you know if anything you say is racist? It could be true once you determine the criteria.

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without knowing if some particular country’s population is generally considered to be black.

Jews don’t have a country. Jew and Israeli are not synonyms. That is bigotry.

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The analogy still works if we’re talking about a race rather than a country. You’re nitpicking the details, not attacking the actual point being made. The point is that there is no such thing as a strict definition of race, but that such a thing isn’t necessary to talk about race as a concept. It would be like saying “you can’t say you like sandwiches unless you define what a sandwich is”. We all know on the internet that is an impossible definition, but we can still meaningfully talk about sandwiches.

Traditionally based on what? What tradition is this? Who made it a tradition?

The natural evolution of the English language as determined by multiple societies. I’m using the most common definition of racism that I know. No definition is kore valid than any other in theory, so if you want to explain what you think racism is I’ll switch to talking about your definition.

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I’m not nitpicking on the details, I’m pointing out you yourself said something which, in context, sure sounded bigoted to me.

Perhaps you’re not the best judge of bigotry?

And let’s see evidence of this “natural evolution” that involves statistics. That doesn’t sound like how language works to me.

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