Comment by Deceptichum@quokk.au on Voting for the lesser evil is still evil

The Left is looking as good as it always did. Look there instead.

You have to go back regardless so why push for an earlier stop?

Because it’s a two party system and voting third party isn’t how you change that.

voting ~~third party~~ isn’t how you change ~~that~~ anything.

FTFY

Voting lets us pick a weaker enemy.

This is precisely the kind of apathy to civic duty that won 4 more years of Trump (but this time with house, Senate and a stacked Scotus!).

The thing with voting rights is you have to use it or you lose it. Pray you don’t lose it between now and the next one.

Lol, “civic duty”.

I’m not even American, homie. And believe me: even a less underdeveloped democratic system than the US won’t save us from fascism. Direct action and organizing will.

Nothing I said assumed you were American. Your philosophy on voting led to Americans not voting and the situation they face right now (which effects other countries too, you know!)

Furthermore, no one here believes you give half a shit about direct action and organising because if you can’t even motivate yourself to get off the couch and write on a piece of paper once every 3-4 years then there’s no way you’re doing anything meaningful the rest of the time besides spreading apathy on online echo chambers.

Nothing I said assumed you were American.

I beg to differ. Your last paragraph especially.

Your philosophy on voting led to Americans not voting and the situation they face right now

[Citation needed]

Furthermore, no one here believes you give half a shit about direct action and organising

Good thing I don’t depend on what strangers on the internet believe of me.

because if you can’t even motivate yourself to get off the couch and write on a piece of paper once every 3-4 years then there’s no way you’re doing anything meaningful the rest of the time besides spreading apathy on online echo chambers.

Nothing I said suggests assumed I didn’t vote.

Also: how does that make sense? I claim that voting is neither necessary nor sufficient for progressive change and you immediately jump to the conclusion that I don’t vote and therefore I can’t be organizing, because voting is somehow important again and I don’t do it, so I can’t be organizing?

That’s like me saying “watching sports won’t make you healthy. Exercise does.” and you claim that I don’t watch sports and since I’m so lazy that I supposedly don’t watch sports, I can’t be exercising.

Good luck explaining electoral politics to accelerationists, their political philosophy relies on not understanding that their methods only ever lead to more and more pain. The whole point is to make things intolerable to the point of revolution. Which would be very bloody in this country.

You’re right things are so peaceful in America today. Children aren’t getting shot in schools, black people aren’t getting beaten to death, millions aren’t dying from poverty or preventable health issues, etc.

This is like arguing killing a ceo is immoral because it’s violent while letting slide the people they kill through policy.

You’re right things are so peaceful in America today. Children aren’t getting shot in schools, black people aren’t getting beaten to death, millions aren’t dying from poverty or preventable health issues, etc.

And letting the greater evil win sure helps all of those issues, doesn’t it?

The greater evil always wins when you vote the lesser evil, can you not see the diagram in OPs post?

So I guess the best move is just to let the greater evil win anyway, right? After all, if the greater evil wins no matter what you choose, you have no moral culpability for your shitty choices and can continue to spread damaging ideologies without all that pesky guilt.

I’ve heard this song and dance before, and your lazy tautology tells me you haven’t put much thought into your position. Or, at least not one that shows any humanity for those around you.

Accelerationism is for gormless stooges who support mass suffering and evil winning.

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