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I wish people would stop saying this. She would lose. I like her, but that doesn’t change the fact that she is not going to be president.

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35 points

That’s what they would have said about Obama in 2004 if anyone knew his name back then…

AOC could, should, and hopefully will run

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That would be awesome. If elected, she would be the first president younger than me. And since she’s undoubtedly smarter than I am, I’m cool with it.

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It’s insane how fast they normalized geriatric candidates who both clearly had issues.

The only two presidents over 70 on inauguration day is trump at 70 and Biden at 78, now it’s gonna be trump at 78 again.

Bill was 46, Obama was 47, even GW was 54.

This is a very recent development and everyone’s already acting like anything under 85 is fine

It’s fucking insane to me. Just a complete rejection of reality

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This was practically a different country in 2004/2008 and let’s not pretend Obama and AOC are close on the political spectrum.

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You could almost say that after 20 years the standard of progressive changed?

Dont tell Pelosi or Biden, they still thinking the standard isn’t open racism, because that’s what it was in the 60s.

But yes, AOC is more progressive in 2024 than Obama in 2004.

But so is fucking society.

If you want the Dem party in 2024 to be the same it was in 2004, that’s like if in 2004 you wanted 1984.

If that’s what you want, go be a conservative and drag them to the middle.

Stop fighting progress because you don’t want it that far. The bigger danger is going too far right. So for fucks sake be honest about your political identity and go moderate the Republican party instead of ruining the only other option.

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She’s a real feisty one who’s only willing to go so far into being “corporate.” With the inevitable loss of Bernie, she will become the most recognized face of progressives in Congress. Her sharp tongue and wit, combined with an excellent ability to get her points made succinctly would serve her well in any attempt to run. She’s more lively and personable than Harris ever was.

I’d say she has an excellent shot at the White House if she so chooses.

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19 points

Why would she lose?

The normies would project whatever fantasy they want onto her, and she’s hot so it could be positive delusions.

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4 points

Why would she lose?

I mean, there is no way she would get through the primaries. The party would disband before running a progressive for president.

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7 points

Everyone says that can’t happen until it happens. We’re getting very close to the era of millennial dominance

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3 points

She’s also brown, a liberal, and from New York. Even if she had the cure for cancer White America would rather crucify themselves than let her become president.

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8 points

See, this is why I don’t buy the “Harris lost because she’s a woman of color” crap. Centrists don’t want to admit that moving to the right has hit a wall, and it has the added bonus of being an excuse to shut out AOC.

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9 points

Do tell. Which dull advocate for an untenable status quo should we run instead?

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4 points

I’m not them and I’d happily campaign my ass off for AOC, but I expect Whitmer. Who I’d take over the likes of Shapiro or Newsom any day.

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I didn’t say AOC wasn’t the best person for the job, only that she won’t win. If I had a better answer, I would gladly offer it up. That said, I’ll keep voting as progressive as i can.

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Conventional logic also said Trump would loose but here we are.

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