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-28 points

I am tired of these comparisions. The Ukraine war has a clear good and a clear bad side. The same cannot be said about the Israel/Palastine war. Both parties are equally shitty. There is just one side much more powerful so more capable to commit cruelties. The only clear good people here are the civillians suffering on both sides.

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Palestine is far more black and white than Ukraine. I’d recommend you read up on it.

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12 points

Nothing about middle east conflicts is close to black and white. I’d recommend you read up on it.

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Imagine saying a literal Nazi style Genocide is not black and white.

Are you going to say Hitler actually had a point next?

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-1 points

Nothing about middle east conflicts

Spoken like a true racist, grouping up “middle east conflicts” as if it was a single entity.

Pretty easy actually, Palestinians were there living their lives and having a sense of nationality as Palestinians since the latter years of the Ottoman Empire. Zionists decided they didn’t care about that, decided they deserved their ancestral homeland, and western countries helped them militarily to relocate hundreds of thousands of people and murder tens of thousands on top. It’s almost quite literally that easy.

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Okay, so Russia Invaded Ukraine. Russia is the Aggressor.

The Hamas attacked Israel, so Israel exterminates Palestine and claims it wants to exterminate the Hamas. The Hamas have committed Warcrimes and hides the self behind Civilians and the IDF does a whole lot of warcrimes too. Both sides are shirt, just the IDF has done a bit more shit than the Hamas. Theres no good side in this conflict. Both sides want to exterminate each other and sacrifice the Palestinian civilians for this.

I don’t know where you see a more black and white scheme in the middle east conflict than in the Ukraine war, but I’m willing to read your explanation.

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-4 points

You appear to forget 75 years of israel invading Palestine. And putting Palestinians in a concentration camp.

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3 points

Care to explain it if it’s so simple? You have no idea what your talking about…

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2 points

Simple:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

The whole “so difficult conflict which goes so far back that it’s impossible to know who’s guilty at this point”, starts in the late 40s with the invasion of Palestinian land by Zionist settlers, and the violent displacement of 750.000+ locals.

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Israel = Nazis.

It’s literally that simple.

Here’s a good recent article have fun informing yourself.

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far more black and white? What in the ever living fuck are you talking about?

Ukraine was literally legally guaranteed that russia wouldn’t invade them, after taking their nuclear weapons. Russia LITERALLY broke this agreement. How much more black and white can you get than quite literally going against what you’ve said?

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I know you’re getting down voted to hell but I agree. People are losing sight of just how shitty Hamas is. This is exactly what they wanted, they care even less about their own peoples lives, happy to use them as human shields. A hundred thousand martyrs. Fucking embarrassing to be human sometimes.

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No one is losing sight of that, they’re correctly making the point that there is no justification for bombing a hospital full of patients and that the justification the IDF gave has been found to be false.

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The Ukraine war has a clear good and a clear bad side. The same cannot be said about the Israel/Palastine war.

It’s funny, because I’ve seen so many white nationalists assert the exact opposite.

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white nationalists assert

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47 points

Seems like both articles should be horrified about a bombed hospital but maybe that’s just me.

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3 points

i would argue both articles should probably just be talking about how hospitals were bombed, rather than writing an entire diatribe on the emotional states of everyone involved.

But that’s just me, i like my reporting neutral.

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-7 points

Sure but one article is a breaking news type of article and one is about a bad thing that has already happened and now they are merely entering the hospital.

I dont know the specific of either event but is it possible that more people died in the Ukrainian hospital?

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is it possible that more people died in the Ukrainian hospital?

No, it’s not. Al-Jazeera reports 2 deaths in the Ukrainian hospital, The Guardian reports 4. IDF reports 200 Palestinian casualties in Al-Shifa, Palestinian authorities report 400+.

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It’s the opposite. Israel/Palestine war has a clear evil side (Israel) and a clear victim (Palestine). Ukraine war is a complicated mess.

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So the victims are the ones who openly call for the death of an entire group of people? Their founding Charter literally calls for the elimination of Jews… and after they slaughtered the women and children in October they said they’ll do it again. They’re the victim to you? Interesting.

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5 points

That is a wild and backwards take!

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12 points

A hospital full of civilians being bombed is bad regardless of the context. There’s no point in media outlets spinning shit like this. They’re just acting as propagandists for Israel by throwing softballs like this.

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