Comment by haverholm@kbin.earth on Moving from iOS to GrapheneOS, need guidance

What are the best piracy tips/tricks. I host most of my own media, but I want to be able to read paywalled news articles, watch youtube w/o ads am generally into privacy, etc.

What are your best practices?

For Youtube w/o ads just use Newpipe, an open source, privacy aware, third party app. You’ll never need to log into Youtube again. And it’s not even piracy, even if Google might think differently 🙂

Have a look at Grayjay for youtube and other video sites.

You’ll never need to log into Youtube again

Well, I’ve used Newpipe for the longest time but depending on your internet connection / CGNAT’ed or, even using a VPN means it won’t work unless you do sign in :/

https://lemdro.id/post/lemdro.id/9678087

Cannot confirm, in my usage I have never encountered this. I use Newpipe almost daily and do not have a YT login.

Occasionally Google has done something (deliberately or coincidentally) to limit third party app access, but that’s usually worked around very quickly.

Plenty of others can confirm

https://www.google.com/search?q=please sign in bot YouTube&udm=14

It’s been going on for months, especially VPN users.

Okay, I’ll click your Google link —

It looks like there aren’t many great matches for your search

— and certainly none mentioning Newpipe 🤷

Strange, I’m getting pages and pages of links about third party clients barfing

https://files.catbox.moe/f803x6.jpg

Maybe it’s that “cleaner Google” url hack (udm=14) that’s reallllly cleaning it up for ye?

Or just Google doing their best filter bubble. I don’t think they have any useable info on me any more, haven’t used their search for ages.

Either way, I’ll take your word for it and just thank my lucky star that I can continue to use Newpipe without problems.

IMO blocking ads is a form of piracy. You are circumventing there form (ads) of monetization. But yea Newpipe is great I personally use Tubular

Did you enter into a contract saying you must watch ads to use the service? Is ad blocking against ToS? I don’t think either are true, and a “click to consent” isn’t legally binding. Either way, I will never not block ads as it is important from a privacy and cyber security perspective.

Enter a contract no… you also don’t ‘enter a contract’ when you buy a dvd either or watch in theaters etc (no idea about streaming service tbh). As for ToS yes https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599?hl=en

When you block YouTube ads, you violate YouTube’s Terms of Service.

In that case it is a ToS violation, not piracy. You aren’t paying anything, nor does google lose any money since they have been already paid. We would have to stretch the definition of piracy to include other ToS violations since it is not a financial lose.

Let’s extend the scenario. If YouTube ToS required you to click every ad to use their service, would it be piracy if someone doesnt follow those instructions? I think it would be a ToS violation, but what damages could Google even seek?

I hear people sometimes mention that “Google needs to pay somehow to keep YouTube running.” I have no sympathy for Google since they conspired to intentionally push out other video hosting platforms to create monopoly on the market. It is their own fault that videos aren’t more spread out among providers.

How would you even pirate YouTube anyways?

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