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Emotions aside, this seems like abuse of the legal system.

First, the lawsuit itself could be filed with little supporting evidence. Second, the burden of proof in a civil lawsuit is significantly less than a criminal one.

I don’t care for Jay Z, I don’t listen to his music and he’s got too much money, but this is borderline defamation in regards to the damage it will cause.

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Trump’s rape of E. Jean Carroll was uncovered in a civil suit.

O.J. Simpson’s only punishment was via a civil suit.

Alex Jones got fined over a billion dollars for harassing the parents of dead children in a civil suit.

It’s not abuse of the legal system, it’s fighting abuse of the legal system. Trump, Simpson, Jones, Jay-Z… they can all buy themselves out of a criminal trial. A civil suit is a hell of a lot harder to get out of.

And I hate to tell you this if this wasn’t your intention, but this is some real “women are lying gold diggers” territory.

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And I hate to tell you this if this wasn’t your intention, but this is some real “women are lying gold diggers” territory.

Fuck off dude. The comment you replied to didn’t say anything whatsoever about women. You’re the only one being sexist here.

Filing a civil lawsuit 25 years later alleging a crime of this magnitude is extremely suspicious. Occam’s razor dictates that it’s very likely to be a cash grab.

Y’all are so incredibly biased, predictable and easily manipulated it’s embarrassing. If it makes someone rich and powerful look bad, Lemmings will literally eat the steamiest piles of shit and call it a wholesome meal. And that’s why the plaintiff knows they can possibly get a settlement out of this, because most people are absolute sheep and believe whatever gets shoved under their noses without a second thought, and Jay Z can afford to just pay to make it go away if he doesn’t want to deal with the harassment from the “Guilty until proven innocent” mob.

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Was it suspicious when E. Jean Carroll sued Trump? Do you think he’s innocent of raping her?

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Isn’t it reasonable to assume the judiciary in an oligarch run state is going to be compromised (I am referring to the US civil vs. criminal distinction and the inability of winning criminal lawsuits)?

I see a lot of parallels between the judicial corruption in my own country (Ukraine) and the US. Sure our goons are more direct, while Americans prefer more pomp and roundabout methods for corruption, but the outcomes are the same. My favourite US oligarch group is the Sackler family.

In a bankruptcy court filing on July 7, 2021, multiple states agreed to settle. Though Purdue admitted no wrongdoings, the Sacklers would agree never to produce opioids again and pay billions in damages toward a charitable fund. Purdue Pharma was dissolved on September 1, 2021. The Sacklers agreed to pay $4.5 billion over nine years, with most of that money funding addiction treatment. The bankruptcy judge Robert Drain acknowledged that the Sacklers had moved money to offshore accounts to protect it from claims, and he said he wished the settlement had been higher.

What I mean by this tangent is that is not unreasonable to assume that groups that are de facto protected are going to engage in criminals behaviour.

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