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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

I’m sure you’d have preferred France to remain a monarchy because of moral absolutism?

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This isn’t a binary. You can oppose absolutism, revolutionary terror and the current neoliberal status quo all at the same time.

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4 points

Lemmy cannot do that

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2 points

I agree with both of you

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you are painting an oversimplified picture.

“i am sure you’d have preferred Gandhi to pick up a gun because he was met with violence?” we can chase eachother with such oversimplifications forever.

reality is much more complicated than such simple statements. so lets not use their inflammatory nature and focus on the actual problem. which, in that case seems, that people feel disbanded by sociaty to such a degree.

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14 points

The point is that the CEO wasn’t in jail for murder, was he?

What other options his victims had?

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the ceo is just the effect, not the cause. the us laws allow such bullshit and do not protect the weak (at all). what this one ceo did was, like what many other ceo’s do, immoral but legal. you cant jail someone for legal stuff.

change the system and force them to adhere to modern moral standards. if they try to pull some bs now, it is quite easy to lock them away.

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I agree, that was (supposed to be) my point, too. ‘Murder is wrong in every case, no matter the context’ is too black and white, and just sitting on a high horse and preaching won’t remedy the underlying situation. The trolley problem exists for a reason. The French revolution was supposed to be the extreme counter example to disprove OP’s stance, since most people will look at the French revolution as justified and necessary, but murder was very much part of it.

The ‘violent revolution inevitable’ quote was meant to show that it’s still a last resort, but alas, we’re apparently approaching that point.

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That’s the logical conclusion to draw when someone is criticizing the celebration of a vigilante murderer.

No, I think we need more people like him. Much more. I’m sure that’s a wonderful world to live in.

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Eh, the world we currently live in is shit because of people like the one he vigilante murdered

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