As per .world worldnews mod, no discussing naughty stuff like jury nullification.
While this post is blowing up, hereās the book referenced by the shooter:
Delay Deny Defend - Why Insurance Companies Donāt Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It
By request: Full, uncensored video of the shooting. (Fucking obviously NSFW)
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning ājury nullificationā and āfinancially supportingā this has been changed now until a larger announcement is made
many admins and moderators at .world including myself are not american, i pray that the others who are angry at me and hope they consider there are more countries with laws that are different from them
you may disagree with my faith but i consider myself fair in my removal in this violation
when trump was shot i removed comments celebrating this violence when sinwar was killed i removed comments celebrating this violence so when this person is murdered i remove comments celebrating this violence
when users report these comments and those above me ask me to act on this topic i continue as i have for months in these communities
there was no good-faith and productive discussion to be had when you celebrate murder
how can you call others a tankie when you dance on graves as they do?
i have sympathy for the americans who are wronged by the man murdered but instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
āWe are not American but we denounce all violence (except if it is done against American adversaries) and only allow posts from American favored media sourcesā
Did the CIA promise Lemmy.World admins green cards?
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning ājury nullificationā
By who, pray tell? Because at the moment it seems like youāre the only mod on the server doing so.
there are more countries with laws that are different from them
In which of these countries is it illegal to discuss jury nullification in the US?
i consider myself fair in my removal in this violation
Although you took actions that are based on a version of the rules that nobody else has access to?
those above me ask me to act on this topic
Again, youāre the only one acting on this topic. Who is asking you to do so? Right now it seems like youāre being hung out to dry.
there was no good-faith and productive discussion to be had when you celebrate murder
Weird, Iām seeing a ton of productive discussion in this thread
how can you call others a tankie when you dance on graves as they do?
Because thatās not the definition of tankie. Dancing on graves is not an aspect of any particular ideology.
instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
Stop trying to push your fucking religion on everybody else. Youāre the mod of c/News, not c/Christianity.
an admin/community manager were involved in the discussion with me and other moderators
they will be making an announcement on the issue i donāt know when i followed the direction from above to act on the reports and then to stop acting on them
the announcement will include the information
i do not know where the server is?
the version of the rules is the terms of service? https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
other mods removed posts and comments also the admins site banned people!
because you are discussing me? explain to me how can you have good-faith discussion of premeditated murder?
tankies kill without any respect for law and you are here encouraging this type of murder outside law and government how is it not the same?
you can read whatever book you want and what faith you desire
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
ask yourself why do the propaganda instances like .ml hexbear and lemmygrad support this and we are standing for civility?
i do not know where the server is?
From https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
Our Governing Laws
The website and the agreement will be governed by and construed per the laws of the following countries and/or states:
The Netherlands
Republic of Finland
Federal Republic of Germany
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
Holy shit, youāre still a mod?!? Thereās a difference between having faith and casting judgement on everyone else. Really fucking funny and ironic in this context.
You can have productive conversations on any topic. āProductiveā here is an opinionated response, Iāve seen plenty of discussions involving the CEO roles/individuals and how harming the public might be viewed on a broader term since these companies have been documented doing just that. Interesting conversations diving into politics, class, morality, our justice system, etc etc on all these posts. Itās unfortunate I have to enter into a meme community to have those though.
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
I thought only god could judge us you bloody hypocrite.
I was right, youāre a fool. And you should not be a mod of any community. Especially when youāre going on and fucking on about th TOS with contents that donāt exist and oblivious to the content that is in there (like the server location).
the version of the rules is the terms of service? https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
Yes, and nothing in that ToS actually prohibits the behaviour you are complaining about. Do you know why ToS and similar documents exist? So everybody has the same expectations and guidelines, and we can clearly see when somebody has stepped over the line. Youāve now declared that the ToS is invalid, and weāre being judged based on a new one that will be Coming SoonTM. Thatās where this entire situation crosses the line into abuse of power, because instead of being impartial and enforcing the rules, youāre enforcing your personal likes and desires onto the rest of us. Ironic, for somebody who claims that only God can judge anybody.
explain to me how can you have good-faith discussion of premeditated murder?
Whatās so difficult to understand? Weāre having a discussion. The entire internet is having a discussion right now. Some of it is crap-tier, but that applies to any content online. Others are learning stuff, engaging and growing their minds. What exactly is bad-faith about this?
tankies kill without any respect for law
You keep using the term ātankiesā. Do you actually know what it means? None of the things youāve ascribed to them thus far have any actual relevance to their ideology. And now Iām annoyed that youāre making me defend them.
how is it not the same?
It is unrelated, as it has nothing to do with our ideologies and political beliefs.
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
Nice to know your opinion of atheists and agnostics. Iām fairly certain that that statement breaks some of the .world ToS. Also, when did you become this judgemental? Only god should judge, you know.
ask yourself why do the propaganda instances like .ml hexbear and lemmygrad support this
The entire bloody internet is supporting this right now. Even the major news outlets have had to change their tune and switch from focusing on the ābrutal horrorā to discussing why everybodyās cheering the executioner on. Why? Because this has transcended the bullshit political boundaries and made people realise itās class warfare. Fuck the culture wars. Want to make things better? Scare a billionaire tonight.
i have sympathy for the americans who are wronged by the man murdered but instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
Oh hey, I started reading the Bible from the beginning and in the first chapter the main character convinced a father to kill his own son then killed almost everyone on earth because he didnāt like them. Are those the lessons Iām supposed to learn?
Edit: I skipped ahead a bit to the part where the punishment for having sex with someone who isnāt your wife is to be stoned to death. Am I get warmer yet?
What about the part where one of the characters went around and cut off 200 penises from an ethno group he didnāt like because the father of the girl he wanted to marry said 100 and he wanted to impress him?
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning ājury nullificationā
Jury nullification is not illegal in the United States, the jurisdiction this would be tried in.
Iāve been searching around, not very in depth mind you, and I havenāt been able to find an instance of it being outright illegal in any western country. It ranges from being an accepted function of the jury, to being something that exists theoretically within the jury system but not being explicitly discussed, neither encouraged nor discouraged, in the the legal framework, to being not applicable at all because they donāt use juries at all.
Removing the US component to this situation and knowing that LW is hosted in the EU, I canāt find a single country that would impact the ability of people to discuss jury nullification on LW.
Again this is based on some cursory searches, so if Iām wrong and jury nullification is illegal in some EU country, please let me know.