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Then you need

  1. A millitant, organized working class movement
  2. A large, strong example of a recent Communist revolution, and
  3. A fearful bourgeoisie
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Yes, whereas we actually don’t know what we need for a proper revolution.

So imo that still a far safer bet because it has happened successfully before.

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What do you mean by “we don’t know what we need for a proper revolution?” Can we not look to the centuries of successful revolutions, and see how their conditions are similar and different from our own? Moreover, where are you hoping will be the next required large country to have a Communist revolution, and why can’t it be your country?

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Well, I meant a socialist revolution.

Also, a lot of revolutions don’t go the way they intended.

centuries of successful revolutions

You know, the first French Revolution gave France napoleon, who was a dictator and only because he was constantly at war that he was unable to hold on to power.

Not every revolution accomplishes its goals so calling all of them successful is a stretch.

Idk if we need new examples, there has been so many example already.

But again I would like to reiterate, imo socialist revolution can work, but it’s the brute force, bloody and inefficient method that would never be my first pick if I have options.

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The recent strong example of a communist revolution gave us the anti-communist revolution. It took us 30 fucking years though. And the cost of this little detour can still be felt today. We’re at least 2 generations of progress behind, compared to our western peers.

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The recent strong example of a Communist Revolution created the conditions for FDR and other Social Democrats to greatly expand protections for workers via concessions.

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