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Well I guess that’s where we fundamentally disagree.

I just want us to do more of what we did with the 1930s because that helped give us the prosperity we saw past WWII.

I want that because I know it works, not saying a revolution can’t work, but why risk things in these polarizing times?

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Then you need

  1. A millitant, organized working class movement
  2. A large, strong example of a recent Communist revolution, and
  3. A fearful bourgeoisie
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The recent strong example of a communist revolution gave us the anti-communist revolution. It took us 30 fucking years though. And the cost of this little detour can still be felt today. We’re at least 2 generations of progress behind, compared to our western peers.

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The recent strong example of a Communist Revolution created the conditions for FDR and other Social Democrats to greatly expand protections for workers via concessions.

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Yes, whereas we actually don’t know what we need for a proper revolution.

So imo that still a far safer bet because it has happened successfully before.

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What do you mean by “we don’t know what we need for a proper revolution?” Can we not look to the centuries of successful revolutions, and see how their conditions are similar and different from our own? Moreover, where are you hoping will be the next required large country to have a Communist revolution, and why can’t it be your country?

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